Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

In your opinion obviously Joe, I’m just not convinced. I’m sure you’ll agree we’ve heard variations on that theme for years but as yet nothing remotely similar to it has happened .

I am extremely concerned about a no deal Brexit so I’d just much rather it didn’t happen . If it does I sincerely hope you’re right but you can understand my scepticism.

All I have seen is a nodding dog of civil servants from the UK so far as they are doing the best to keep us in - sod the people's vote in 2016 and democrocy hey ho..... let's have the best of three votes do you know they would take 12 months to come up with an agreeable question - imo it should be Mays deal or out on WTO rules.......as the remain vote has already been voted on in 2016.... and it lost........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Oh I wish it could be Christmas, every daaaay, when the bells were singing and Joey stayed awaaaay.

 

[Harryflashman]

All I have seen is a nodding dog of civil servants from the UK so far as they are doing the best to keep us in - sod the people's vote in 2016 and democrocy hey ho..... let's have the best of three votes do you know they would take 12 months to come up with an agreeable question - imo it should be Mays deal or out on WTO rules.......as the remain vote has already been voted on in 2016.... and it lost........

How do Davis and Raab escape any criticism when they’re the ministers in charge of the brief . I find it crazy the people in charge of the negotiations are apparently free of any blame when it’s gone wrong.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Oh I wish it could be Christmas, every daaaay, when the bells were singing and Joey stayed awaaaay.

@Joey66 hes at it again!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

@Joey66 hes at it again!

It's amazing how rapidly these discussions get dragged down to an infantile level.

 

[Joey66]

@Joey66 hes at it again!

lol

 

[Joey66]

It's amazing how rapidly these discussions get dragged down to an infantile level.

Almost as good as you economist quote on the Labour Party thread to get out of a hole you dug

 

[Joey66]

Oh I wish it could be Christmas, every daaaay, when the bells were singing and Joey stayed awaaaay.

Yes but I would always be back Bruce,,,.....!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[Joey66]

Is that from a expert Bruce by any chance Gina Miller lollol
To think she thought the elected parliament would vote a deal through that represented the winning vote which was democracy tut tut........

 

[roydo]

@nsno-chris

Hows it going in the real world mate?

 

[Tubey]

That’s because there is no ‘one’ reason, whether for being in the E.U. or out of the E.U. There are however many reasons that when combined suggest we are better to leave, rangingfrom control of our own laws, control of our own policies, control of our taxation, control of our own waters, disposing of foreign politicians creating our laws, not having 27 other nations having a veto over our trade policies, not contributing to E.U. budgets, controlling our own foreign aid, allowing our government to assist industries how they wish, having our own foreign policy, not being part of a European army, not becoming part of an ever centralising EU super state, just for starters......

OK, can you tell me how impactful on the wellbeing of our our nation those things are, and exactly what "control" means instead of using the word as an umbrella term?

For example, how "not contributing to EU budgets" seems great on paper - more for us eh - but then in reality we've profited from being in the EU massively and there's a reason all economic projections state we'll be worse off outside it?

Because pretty much everything you've typed has that issue - I call it a "Faraging" of the issues, where you type headline sentences that look like they mean something but actually don't.

For example, what's the point of "not having 27 other nations having a veto over our trade policies" when we get our way 97% ish of the time over such policies due to our power in that bloc and by leaving the EU collective bargaining position we weaken our own stand to make deals and look desperate, resulting in much weaker deals as a result?

That's what I mean by heart overruling head - you want to leave the EU solely for the autonomy it offers, rather than the practicality in terms of how much better off we are in it. Is that a worthwhile trade-off - massively hurting your own country so that you don't have to listen to what Latvia have to say about the price of carrots once every blue moon?

 

[orchard]

Latvia is the 82nd largest export economy in the world. In 2016, Latvia exported $11.2B and imported $13.5B, resulting in a negative trade balance of $2.31B. In 2016 the GDP of Latvia was $27.6B and its GDP per capita was $25.6k.

The top exports of Latvia are carrots (57cents) Sawn Wood ($631M), Refined Petroleum ($548M), Hard Liquor ($384M), Packaged Medicaments ($382M) and Wheat($377M), using the 1992 revision of the HS (Harmonized System) classification. Its top imports are Refined Petroleum ($934M), Cars($608M), Packaged Medicaments ($512M), Broadcasting Equipment ($378M) and Petroleum Gas ($306M).

The top export destinations of Latvia are Lithuania ($2.07B), the United Kingdom ($861M), Russia ($732M), Germany ($727M) and Estonia($719M). The top import origins are Lithuania($2.14B), Germany ($1.43B), Poland ($1.32B), Russia ($1.22B) and Estonia ($961M).

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Latvia is the 82nd largest export economy in the world. In 2016, Latvia exported $11.2B and imported $13.5B, resulting in a negative trade balance of $2.31B. In 2016 the GDP of Latvia was $27.6B and its GDP per capita was $25.6k.

The top exports of Latvia are carrots (57cents) Sawn Wood ($631M), Refined Petroleum ($548M), Hard Liquor ($384M), Packaged Medicaments ($382M) and Wheat($377M), using the 1992 revision of the HS (Harmonized System) classification. Its top imports are Refined Petroleum ($934M), Cars($608M), Packaged Medicaments ($512M), Broadcasting Equipment ($378M) and Petroleum Gas ($306M).

The top export destinations of Latvia are Lithuania ($2.07B), the United Kingdom ($861M), Russia ($732M), Germany ($727M) and Estonia($719M). The top import origins are Lithuania($2.14B), Germany ($1.43B), Poland ($1.32B), Russia ($1.22B) and Estonia ($961M).

There was a mass shortage of noses on snowmen this year thanks to Brexit.

 

[Joey66]

There was a mass shortage of noses on snowmen this year thanks to Brexit.

Wrong again Bruce our Vegetable exports were at a record high due to the low £...,!