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[Walken]

Troops on standby over Brexit? How delusional and out of touch would you have to be to think that's needed?! What do they thinks gonna happen? I think some people are grossly overestimating how much the vast majority of the population really care about Brexit.

Companies are already letting people go from their jobs as a direct result of brexit, then you've got medical supply shortages and other areas all adding to an accumulative effect and a feeling of general resentment as having this forced upon us unnecessarily. If no deal goes through the atmosphere will be toxic, but besides that the troops may be needed to cover the huge logistical shortfalls that a gang of bigoted fossils have forced upon us

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Companies are already letting people go from their jobs as a direct result of brexit, then you've got medical supply shortages and other areas all adding to an accumulative effect and a feeling of general resentment as having this forced upon us unnecessarily. If no deal goes through the atmosphere will be toxic, but besides that the troops may be needed to cover the huge logistical shortfalls that a gang of bigoted fossils have forced upon us

I'm willing to bet you and anyone else on here an infinite ammount of 'interest credit' that absolutely nothing even remotely close to public disorder happens on the streets of the UK because of Brexit. It's actually laughable to suggest it's likely.

As for the dig at the older generation supposedly forcing Brexit upon us. Just a suggestion but maybe next time we should try and tell younger people to actually get off their arse and vote. Because younger people who feel strongly about Brexit and the remain cause should be far more angry with their own age demographic then any one else.

 

[Harryflashman]

That makes a good deal more sense I suppose. Still ludicrous though imo.

Can you imagine if the worse case scenario wasn’t prepared for by those in authority? Say it’s a worst case no deal and we have a lack of medication and potential food shortages , this has to be something that has been considered .

As regards the military training for such a situation I’m also told it’s something the police are doing , certainly I know psni are on top of it and have dramatically increased their public order training .

I personally think and hope we won’t end up in this situation but it’s not as ludicrous as people seem to think . This isn’t project fear its preparing for a potential crisis , hopefully even with a no deal it won’t be an issue but it’s far from delusional to consider it .

 

[Walken]

I'm willing to bet you and anyone else on here an infinite ammount of 'interest credit' that absolutely nothing even remotely close to public disorder happens on the streets of the UK because of Brexit. It's actually laughable to suggest it's likely.

As for the dig at the older generation supposedly forcing Brexit upon us. Just a suggestion but maybe next time we should try and tell younger people to actually get off their arse and vote. Because younger people who feel strongly about Brexit and the remain cause should be far more angry with their own age demographic then any one else.

Those who failed to vote and suffering the consequences will have to look at themselves and their peers for sure, but that doesn't excuse a generation of people betraying others future based largely on a pack of lies and bigotry, some genuine arguments but in my experience they are very much in the minority, or perhaps just not as vocal.

Public disorder is a relative term, and could be expanded to mean a whole host of various situations, sensible to have contingencies.

As stated, as ignored by you, and as stated by others, the forces will also be mosty involved in the logistical shortfalls created by this utter lunacy that is brexit

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Those who failed to vote and suffering the consequences will have to look at themselves and their peers for sure, but that doesn't excuse a generation of people betraying others future based largely on a pack of lies and bigotry, some genuine arguments but in my experience they are very much in the minority, or perhaps just not as vocal.

Public disorder is a relative term, and could be expanded to mean a whole host of various situations, sensible to have contingencies.

As stated, as ignored by you, and as stated by others, the forces will also be mosty involved in the logistical shortfalls created by this utter lunacy that is brexit

Nobody was betrayed by others because of how they voted in the referendum. That's just such a juvenile way to view things.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Troops on standby over Brexit? How delusional and out of touch would you have to be to think that's needed?! What do they thinks gonna happen? I think some people are grossly overestimating how much the vast majority of the population really care about Brexit.

Unless we come out of the EU in an orderly fashion and get something that works for > 80% of what we already have now, then it's quite easy to see that troops may have to deal with some fallout.

If brexit is canned then you will probably see the EDL type, riot for the 'perceived' betrayal in not sticking to a non binding referendum.

What you don't hear a lot on question time etc. Is the other side, they say a second referendum has the chance to further divide the country (behave, it was near enough a 50/50 split!), thinking about these brexiteers kicking off. Well if it happens and is a complete disaster, I can see widespread rioting by the youth of the country. You can't really blame them for wanting their pound of flesh if it goes tits up. If things were pretty bleak already for you and analysts start saying it will be 10-15 years before things start to pick up, all because the older generations who are pretty insulated from any negative effects wanted (on the whole) less immigration, you'd be pretty cheesed off too.

It's laughable to think it will be over after a deal has been reached. Because likely it won't be good enough for one side or the other.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Unless we come out of the EU in an orderly fashion and get something that works for > 80% of what we already have now, then it's quite easy to see that troops may have to deal with some fallout.

If brexit is canned then you will probably see the EDL type, riot for the 'perceived' betrayal in not sticking to a non binding referendum.

What you don't hear a lot on question time etc. Is the other side, they say a second referendum has the chance to further divide the country (behave it was near enough a 50/50 split!), thinking about these brexiteers kicking off. Well if it happens and is a complete disaster, I can see widespread rioting by the youth of the country. You can't really blame them for wanting their pound of flesh if it goes tits up. If things were pretty bleak already for you and analysts start saying it will be 10-15 years before things start to pick up, all because the older generations who are pretty insulated from any negative effects wanted (on the whole) less immigration, you'd be pretty cheesed off too.

It's laughable to think it will be over after a deal has been reached. Because likely it won't be good enough for one side or the other.

I never claimed anything would be over if a deal was reached. I don't, I think this will drag on and on for many years to come but I still don't believe we'll see anything even approaching riots from either side because of Brexit. The vast majority simply don't care as much about the issue as we do. People who regularly talk and discuss politics are a tiny minority in pretty much any country and those out there who care enough to really get actively involved in any way are an even smaller minority.

 

[Walken]

Nobody was betrayed by others because of how they voted in the referendum. That's just such a juvenile way to view things.

A healthy proportion of society has seen their futures chucked down the river because of the whims of a separate proportion, who voted ignorantly and lazily, I would call that betrayal and they have every right to be angry about it

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

A healthy proportion of society has seen their futures chucked down the river because of the whims of a separate proportion, who voted ignorantly and lazily, I would call that betrayal and they have every right to be angry about it

You can be angry about whatever you want, view thing however you like and do whatever you want. As is your right.

It's also my right to view that particular outlook as incredibly juvenile.

 

[Walken]

You can be angry, view thing however you like and do whatever you want. As is your right.

It's also my right to view that particular outlook as incredibly juvenile.

I'll be sure to pass that on to my brother who lost his job 2 weeks before xmas as a direct result of brexit

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I'll be sure to pass that on to my brother who lost his job 2 weeks before xmas as a direct result of brexit

I'm very sorry to hear that.

 

[The binman chronicles]

People who regularly talk and discuss politics are a tiny minority in pretty much any country and those out there who care enough to really get actively involved in any way are an even smaller minority.

This is very true. However we all deal with the consequences that come about from political and economic decisions that people may or may not understand or have been bothered with that much to start with.

We have to hope that the changes to everyday life are minimal. It however looks a lot more than that as we forecast the future now.

 

[Walken]

I'm very sorry to hear that.

It's a bit cheap of me to get anecdotal about it but it is happening to a lot of people, my own work is being affected. As stated I think the army will be more likely to be used for logistical purposes than civil unrest, but the anger and division is real and I'm yet to hear a single coherent argument as to why it's being enforced upon us from anyone outside or inside the political sphere. Edge on here has probably spoke best on leaving without going down the usual roads. But believe me I am just as disappointed in those who didn't care to vote and far far more angry with that toad cameron and the despicable leave campaigners such as farage, rees mogg and the like with their self centered illegal campaign.

You are probably right about the likelhood of civil unrest in this country, we seem to accept an unlimited number of crap deals from our 'betters' without raising a fuss, but with the possibility of no deal still there we have to make contingency plans

 

[Tubey]

It's a bit cheap of me to get anecdotal about it but it is happening to a lot of people, my own work is being affected. As stated I think the army will be more likely to be used for logistical purposes than civil unrest, but the anger and division is real and I'm yet to hear a single coherent argument as to why it's being enforced upon us from anyone outside or inside the political sphere. Edge on here has probably spoke best on leaving without going down the usual roads. But believe me I am just as disappointed in those who didn't care to vote and far far more angry with that toad cameron and the despicable leave campaigners such as farage, rees mogg and the like with their self centered illegal campaign.

You are probably right about the likelhood of civil unrest in this country, we seem to accept an unlimited number of crap deals from our 'betters' without raising a fuss, but with the possibility of no deal still there we have to make contingency plans

Bold bit is the killer for me. I'm a man of logic - I just want one good reason why it's worth it. Just one, solid, irrefutable reason why we're doing it. If they can give me that, then I can rationalise it to a degree.

There has quite literally never been one uttered from anyone. It seems like a massive case of heart over head, the whole thing.

 

[peteblue]

A healthy proportion of society has seen their futures chucked down the river because of the whims of a separate proportion, who voted ignorantly and lazily, I would call that betrayal and they have every right to be angry about it

Ignorantly and lazily. I am neither ignorant nor lazy. I don’t know one single leave voter who is either ignorant or lazy. I do know one or too Remainers however who are......