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...with the Tories on the ropes regarding Brexit, Corbyn shifts the headlines on him for ‘allegedly’ calling May a ‘stupid woman’. What a pity Labour are going through this national crisis with just as ineffective a leader as the Conservatives.

And just like that, you got played by the Conservative party and all of their friends in the national media, @Eggs.

Why is this deemed more newsworthy than the ongoing disaster of May's Brexit planning? Is it more important? In fact, is it even important in any way at all?

And that's even before going into whether he said 'woman' or not.
 
...with the Tories on the ropes regarding Brexit, Corbyn shifts the headlines on him for ‘allegedly’ calling May a ‘stupid woman’. What a pity Labour are going through this national crisis with just as ineffective a leader as the Conservatives.
If you think it is Corbyn that has shifted the headline that way, you need to look harder at what you are being fed
 
...with the Tories on the ropes regarding Brexit, Corbyn shifts the headlines on him for ‘allegedly’ calling May a ‘stupid woman’. What a pity Labour are going through this national crisis with just as ineffective a leader as the Conservatives.


These are desperate times.

I can never remember both major parties being so poorly led at the same time.
 
This is what I was on about the other day. "Factional disputes" are holding up progress according to British business:

British business says no to no-deal in 100 days’ time
“Businesses have been watching in horror as politicians have focused on factional disputes rather than practical steps that business needs to move forward. The lack of progress in Westminster means that the risk of a ‘no-deal’ Brexit is rising. Businesses of all sizes are reaching the point of no return, with many now putting in place contingency plans that are a significant drain of time and money. Firms are pausing or diverting investment that should be boosting productivity, innovation, jobs and pay, into stockpiling goods or materials, diverting cross border trade and moving offices, factories and therefore jobs and tax revenues out of the UK. While many companies are actively preparing for a ‘no deal’ scenario, there are also hundreds of thousands who have yet to start – and cannot be expected to be ready in such a short space of time.

“All this activity stems from the growing risk of leaving the EU on 29th March without a deal. With just 100 days to go, the suggestion that ‘no-deal’ can be ‘managed’ is not a credible proposition. Businesses would face massive new customs costs and tariffs. Disruption at ports could destroy carefully built supply chains. From broadcasters, to insurance brokers, to our financial services - the UK’s world-leading services sector will be needlessly disadvantaged, and many professional qualifications will be unrecognised across the EU. UK and EU nationals working abroad will be left in deep uncertainty about their future. As a result of the lack of progress, the Government is understandably now in a place where it must step up no-deal planning, but it is clear there is simply not enough time to prevent severe dislocation and disruption in just 100 days.

“This is not where we should be.

“The responsibility to find a way forward now rests directly with 650 MPs in Parliament. Nobody wants to prolong the uncertainty, but everyone must remember that businesses and communities need time to adapt to future changes. As the UK’s leading business groups, we are asking MPs from all parties to return to their constituencies over Christmas and talk to their local business communities. We hope that they will listen and remember that when they return to Parliament, the future course of our economy will be in their hands.”

Dr Adam Marshall, Director General, British Chambers of Commerce

Carolyn Fairbairn, Director General, Confederation of British Industry

Stephen Phipson CBE, Chief Executive, EEF, the manufacturers’ organisation

Mike Cherry OBE, National Chairman, Federation of Small Businesses

Stephen Martin, Director General, Institute of Directors

https://www.britishchambers.org.uk/news/2018/12/british-business-says-no-to-no-deal-in-100-days-time

ENDS


Ah, but Mr. Digby Jones says they are talking bollox.
 
...with the Tories on the ropes regarding Brexit, Corbyn shifts the headlines on him for ‘allegedly’ calling May a ‘stupid woman’. What a pity Labour are going through this national crisis with just as ineffective a leader as the Conservatives.

He's abysmal ain't he?

He definitely said "stupid woman" as well. Denying it makes him look even worse.

He really is the worst.
 
If you think it is Corbyn that has shifted the headline that way, you need to look harder at what you are being fed
What @Eggs raised is valid though despite the Tory media weighing in to redirect public opinion elsewhere.

It is unbelievable that Labour have not surged ahead in the polls given the disarray in Conservative ranks.
 
What @Eggs raised is valid though despite the Tory media weighing in to redirect public opinion elsewhere.

It is unbelievable that Labour have not surged ahead in the polls given the disarray in Conservative ranks.
The second point made here is without doubt linked to the first, regardless of any opinions on Corbyn, no one can deny that with a straight face.

Also, if the point Eggs raised was about policy or at least something remotely linked to his leadership, I might well take it onboard, but to make the point because of this inconsequential nonsense just points me back to the conduct of the media
 
The second point made here is without doubt linked to the first, regardless of any opinions on Corbyn, no one can deny that with a straight face.

Also, if the point Eggs raised was about policy or at least something remotely linked to his leadership, I might well take it onboard, but to make the point because of this inconsequential nonsense just points me back to the conduct of the media
If Labour cannot exploit the disaster that is the Tories now then they need to have a serious re-think about how they are portraying their message. This opportunity is heaven sent for Labour but they are yet to significantly capitalise.

Yes the media will spin their own right wing slant but the wider debacle of Brexit should surely make serious inroads into that.
 
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