Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Harryflashman]

I feel she is stalling to head to the EU to get the legal parts of her crappy agreement through......by the threat of no deal!

See we do agree every so often

 

[The binman chronicles]

The HOC can make and pass amendments you are correct, but that is not legally binding her leaving on the 29th of March is binding legally an act of Parliment just like article 50 ......
it's the time that is running out for the HOC to pass any new bills ......
I feel she is stalling to head to the EU to get the legal parts of her crappy agreement through......by the threat of no deal!

I think you are right and that is why I can see an extension to article 50 unless they vote in favour of her deal.

 

[Socrates]

So we have the old Roman choice: Slavery or Death.

What a fine pickle we've landed ourselves in.

Is it really not British to say "No thanks."?

 

[Joey66]

I think you are right and that is why I can see an extension to article 50 unless they vote in favour of her deal.

It cannot be extended in the timescale to become an act of Parliment.......
They can vote her deal down as she will propose it in January, she will not raise extending article 50 again an amendment will get nowhere as explained......

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

So we have the old Roman choice: Slavery or Death.

What a fine pickle we've landed ourselves in.

Is it really not British to say "No thanks."?

Nah, apparently all the UK has to do is stick it up to the EU and 'kick ass', then they'll back down like the big bad bullies they (as in all 27 of them) are, and let the UK have what the arch Brexiteers want.

I read it on here a page or two ago so it must be true.

 

[Khalekan]

My five year old granddaughter didn’t vote to leave, nor to stay. But of those that actually did vote, the majority voted to Leave. So don’t think there is a groundswell of people who want to remain either....

We are not talking about “groundswells” to Remain (though I suspect the inevitable referendum will show such a groundswell).

It is you who struts around saying that the 32% of the population who voted Leave are somehow an overwhelming majoruty.

They weren’t even an overwhelming majority of them as voted.

And that, my friend, is why Brexit is proving impossible to implement in any sensible fashion.

 

[Eggs]

Of the 52% who voted to leave... how many based that vote purely on the control of borders issue ??

Sorry to bring that up but it is becoming clear that some leavers... and I do stress it’s some not all... still have no idea what either leave or remain means in the future. It’s been the elephant in the room for a while but it does seriously have to be taken into consideration.

...immigration is a key issue, but this Government have made a Horlicks of non-EU immigration. We have control of our borders for this area of immigration but have not been able to manage it effectively. When May was Home Secretary the Government claimed they would reduce immigration to ‘tens of thousands’, they failed miserably.

And folk think Brexit ‘control of borders’ will be a solution.

 

[orchard]

Great moderation as always Bruce........I forget though you did call me an idiot!

Technically, using the Greek root, you are mate. Soz.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I doubt it. Even WW2 didn’t last a generation, and we were back on our feet after ten or fifteen years. This has all been overdone and the older generation who have seen these things before are not buying into the scare stories. The kids will obviously be concerned, but they needn’t be.......2-3 years max and we will be growing again.....if not before....

I appreciate what you’re saying and context is everything, but if you consider that we’re still feeling the repercussions of the financial crash from 10 years ago then I do feel that the idea that we will be ok in a couple of years is fanciful.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I appreciate what you’re saying and context is everything, but if you consider that we’re still feeling the repercussions of the financial crash from 10 years ago then I do feel that the idea that we will be ok in a couple of years is fanciful.

This is especially true if you regard many leave voters as those disenfranchised from our globalized world (rather than wealthy pensioners yearning for Empire), then making society poorer seems unlikely to help people who are already suffering under the status quo.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

 

[orchard]

Haha, '-and conveniently forget this tweet existed if my bluff is called, like the rest of my colleagues.'

 

[hallamblue]

The whole thing is, they won't announce it as a policy, they'll make up some guff about how they won't have time to do anything else in order to try and scare MPs into voting for May's deal.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Haha, '-and conveniently forget this tweet existed if my bluff is called, like the rest of my colleagues.'

I don't see how his bluff will be called? The vote is for mid-January, and leaving is two months after that. Realistically what is the choice here? She's created a situation where that is effectively the final say on this, so people will either vote for her deal or no deal. She's bullied parliament into accepting her deal.

 

[peteblue]

But Pimlico had found priceless treasure and wanted to keep it all for themselves.....much like the famous “£350 million per day for the NHS” that was written on the side of a bus.

It’s all an illusion.

The treasure we wish to keep is the money that we work for and generate. Thinking that we will continue to subsidise the rest of the EU is the real illusion.....