Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Charlie Sweet said:
Hang on you're misinterpreting what I am saying.

Kate Hoey is the leading Leave voice on the Labour side. But she's the biggest breaker of your golden rule suggesting MPs adopt their constituency's leanings.

Then you've the DUP who are not only advocating a Hard Brexit but propping up the government in implementing this shambles - and they are supposedly the voice of Northern Ireland.

Yet Joey you never mention the above when castigating parliament for going against the supposed wishes of the people?
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The chancellor a stanch Remainer.....
 
Actually on that one thing that is increasingly getting on my nerves with this whole thing is what Joey has been saying above. The idea that an MP, or indeed the government, must "follow the vote".

It was an advisory vote only and if your constituency is split, if the country is split then surely if one follows an advisory vote then it has to be near enough something down the middle - so in this instance a very soft Brexit (however stupid that is - it would seemingly follow the democratic vote)
 
peteblue said:
What, people are gloating that we are being stitched up......takes all sorts I suppose......
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In what way have we been stitched up? The EU have held entirely to their opening position statement. It's the Tories that have played silly buggers waiting all that time 'til the Chequers meeting to announce the UK's position.

We are leaving a club but wanting to change the rules of that club as we storm out like a toddler in a hissy fit. When all the adults in the room know the short and medium term future is rubbish for the UK under any Leave scenario.

Exactly how would you have done it better? The UK has always had a terrible negotiating hand. Any time when the "no deal" option is patently idiotic then you're goosed. Not to mention the legally binding commitments for the UK to pay the billions it owes.
 
Seems like Brussels is actually pushing towards a “hard” Brexit.

I mean I don’t blame them for negotiating hard - May didn’t have to agree to any of it and must have known her deal would never fly in parliament (unless she really is that clueless/deluded).

But the refusal to alter one jot now means that we are edging ever closer to the fabled hard, cliff-edge, batten-the-hatches-and-stock-up-on-tinned-goods-and-shotgun-cartridges “no deal” WTO Brexit.

And the planes shall verily fall from the skies.

Of course, they will no doubt greatly fear the admittedly minuscule likelihood of any country leaving and actually being successful - pour encourager les autres...
 
st.domingo said:
Seems like Brussels is actually pushing towards a “hard” Brexit.

I mean I don’t blame them for negotiating hard - May didn’t have to agree to any of it and must have known her deal would never fly in parliament (unless she really is that clueless/deluded).

But the refusal to alter one jot now means that we are edging ever closer to the fabled hard, cliff-edge, batten-the-hatches-and-stock-up-on-tinned-goods-and-shotgun-cartridges “no deal” WTO Brexit.

And the planes shall verily fall from the skies.

Of course, they will no doubt greatly fear the admittedly minuscule likelihood of any country leaving and actually being successful - pour encourager les autres...
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The EU protecting the interests of its member states who are remaining over one that is leaving, imagine that.
 
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