Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Tubey]

She can't admit defeat. She's totally incapable of saying something has gone badly. She's doing her usual here - "nothing has changed".

 

[Tubey]

Bloody lot of trade goes on though doesn't it under WTO, 98%, wowzers.

Read this mate...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/whos-afraid-of-the-wto/

The answer was absolutely no country in the world operates on those terms. Because it's disastrous and more suited to a third world, war torn desperate country than a state the UK aspires to be.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

She can't admit defeat. She's totally incapable of saying something has gone badly. She's doing her usual here - "nothing has changed".

Never been a PM in history like her to cling on to power so much, any other PM would have resigned for being in contempt of parliament, or resigned for only getting 200 votes when 160 of them are on the payroll with a vested interest in their purses and wallets.

She can't get a deal through parliament because she's negotiated a shockingly bad deal, another valid reason to resign.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

The answer was absolutely no country in the world operates on those terms. Because it's disastrous and more suited to a third world, war torn desperate country than a state the UK aspires to be.

That spectator article says different...

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46564884

We’ll have to pay to go to Europe. Nice one Brexit.

Have you been getting free travel or something? Here's me paying for holidays ffs

 

[zzr45]

Have you been getting free travel or something? Here's me paying for holidays ffs

Hanging on the underside of wagons. Really confuses immigration when you whip out a passport

 

[Khalekan]

It was announced this morning that British travellers will have to pay €7 for a three year US-style pre-travel authorisation to visit the European Union after Brexit, provided the UK seals a divorce agreement with the bloc. This will substitute the need for a visa.

In the event of a no deal scenario, it is likely that British travellers to the EU and other Schengen zone countries will require a visa.

Seems it's the EU that's 'taking back control' of its borders, not the UK.

Is that only for British passport holders, Mark?

Although born in the People’s Republic of Liverpool, I have always held an Irish passport due to my parents being born in the auld sod.

 

[Khalekan]

Hanging on the underside of wagons. Really confuses immigration when you whip out a passport

lol

 

[Khalekan]

That spectator article says different...

Ah.....it must be true then

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

Is that only for British passport holders, Mark?

Although born in the People’s Republic of Liverpool, I have always held an Irish passport due to my parents being born in the auld sod.

I'd assume you would be exempt then, not 100% sure though. Here's the full article. https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1214/1017180-brexit-travel-visas/

 

[tsubaki]

My parents have, they said it was great, everything was so cheap, everyone working could afford to buy houses and everything.

I know, but that might be something to do with a very high top rate of tax, huge campaigns of council house building and half the world being effectively outside the global economic system.

Sadly you Brexiteers seem to shun the first two, though your campaign was funded by the people formerly outside of the global economy so I suppose that’s something at least.

 

[orchard]

She's probably getting a firmware update.

Seriously though, every effing time...

 

[orchard]

Bloody lot of trade goes on though doesn't it under WTO, 98%, wowzers.

Read this mate...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/whos-afraid-of-the-wto/

The Speccy's almost on par with the Express nowadays mate, the John Locke days are long.

 

[Tubey]

That spectator article says different...

Perhaps read it again, and whilst doing so perhaps consider why the author didn't give one single example of a country doing exactly what he's proposing, given it's apparently such a good idea?

It's almost like he's talking about theory from a preset biased position, isn't it?

That'd be because he is.

Here's a guy who explains exactly why his article is theoretical nonsense, from a position of having experience within the WTO system.



This is called deeper reading. Too many people read one thing on the internet and take it as the absolute truth and don't bother to ask why the thing is saying what it is saying.

It's why we're in this mess because too many people didn't stop and consider the pros and cons of the situation, instead preferring to read a lie on the side of a bus or a poster of migrants storming the borders and take it as gospel truth.

 

[Harryflashman]

The Speccy's almost on par with the Express nowadays mate, the John Locke days are long.

I think the list of countries that trade purely under WTO rules is the likes of Sudan , South Sudan , Sao Tome & principle , Somalia , the Holy See and the likes but I’m sure we’ll buck the trend .

Say it’s amazing though say not it’s the thing that everybody says it’s is . What about the border ? Because mfn means we’re at serious risk of legal action from everyone if we don’t erect a hard border , of course EU rules say we have to have one anyway so that wto and Eu .