Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

What are you talking about mate ? I’m not meaning to be rude but I genuinely have no idea .

Basically like others he believes the nonsense that the EU have used the Irish border issue to frustrate UK efforts to make a cleaner break after Brexit.

What they ignore of course is that the Remain parties in NI have been constantly lobbying the EU to remind them that they represent the majority of voters in NI and so their interests had to be taken into account in the outcome to the negotiations. It is much more convenient to play the victim and believe that the big bad EU is out to get poor old England as it suits their argument more.

 

[Joey66]

Its not being an elected moderator at all, its about have respect not to publish that utter rag which brought this city to its knees by the constant bashing and denial of the truth of hardworking families that lost family and friends in a tragedy

I have requested for it to be removed ok - I explained my mistake .... it been removed

 

[Tubey]

Labour's custom union alternative makes no sense whatsoever because it allows freedom of movement.

I don't get what they're trying to do politically by advocating something that is clearly nonsense.

 

[Emlynsqueakyvoice]

The Irish problem (the artificial border created by partition) has been getting kicked down the road since the 1920s. Nobody thought about this problem, and specifically how to eradicate the border, until the GFA 1998. The DUP opposed that agreement, as well as they now oppose Remain (despite the fact that the majority of people in their sphere of influence voted to Remain). I have said it before on here, you will get your Brexit when, and only when, the island of Ireland becomes politically and physically reunited. The Irish problem will then go away, as will Arlene and her cast of clowns.

 

[Groucho]

I have requested for it to be removed ok - I explained my mistake .... it been removed

I’ll be honest I thought you’d know better in the first place but.....

 

[Walken]

It's not bizzare the CBi big business favour the May deal as it keeps us in for in perpetuity only the EU say when we can leave - the CBI are well in with the EU financially its our tax paying monies when as medium and small businesses get Zilch -
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org...s_millions_from_the_eu_and_public_bodies.html
Michael Heseltine stanch remainer -
https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...rexit-blocker-90000-pounds-EU-land-subsidies-
Removed
Tony Blair why is he so keen to stay in the EU ?

Have the millionaires on the leave side acted out of altruism Joe? Some consistency needed here as you have routinely defended some of the most awful people in western politics purely based on their position on brexit, and lets be honest what you have linked is a right wing anti-immigration paper and another website called 'vote leave take control', I reckon they may have some sort of agenda towards one side on this. Also you have still ignored the points Heseltine made and got bogged down in a smear campaign instead.

 

[Khalekan]

Have the millionaires on the leave side acted out of altruism Joe? Some consistency needed here as you have routinely defended some of the most awful people in western politics purely based on their position on brexit, and lets be honest what you have linked is a right wing anti-immigration paper and another website called 'vote leave take control', I reckon they may have some sort of agenda towards one side on this. Also you have still ignored the points Heseltine made and got bogged down in a smear campaign instead.

This is how Fintan O’Toole described the phenomenon in an Irish Times article which I will post in full later on as I think it is subscriber only.



Objectively, the great mystery of Brexit is the bond it created between working- class revolt on the one side and upper- class self-indulgence on the other. There would seem to be an unbridgeable gulf of style and manner – let alone of actual economic interests – between the stockbroker superciliousness of Nigel Farage or the self-parodic snootiness of Jacob Rees-Mogg on the one side and the raw two-fingered defiance of working-class patriotism on the other. Brexit depended on an ostensibly improbable alliance between Sunderland and Gloucestershire, between hard old steel towns and rolling Cotswold hills, between people with tattooed arms and golf club buffers.



https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/...ver-mind-the-bollocks-here-s-brexit-1.3712284

 

[GrandOldTeam]

 

[Walken]

This is how Fintan O’Toole described the phenomenon in an Irish Times article which I will post in full later on as I think it is subscriber only.



Objectively, the great mystery of Brexit is the bond it created between working- class revolt on the one side and upper- class self-indulgence on the other. There would seem to be an unbridgeable gulf of style and manner – let alone of actual economic interests – between the stockbroker superciliousness of Nigel Farage or the self-parodic snootiness of Jacob Rees-Mogg on the one side and the raw two-fingered defiance of working-class patriotism on the other. Brexit depended on an ostensibly improbable alliance between Sunderland and Gloucestershire, between hard old steel towns and rolling Cotswold hills, between people with tattooed arms and golf club buffers.



https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/...ver-mind-the-bollocks-here-s-brexit-1.3712284

It's bizarre but you see it on so many issues and then much like this one gets bogged down in fanatical tribalism

 

[Harryflashman]

Basically like others he believes the nonsense that the EU have used the Irish border issue to frustrate UK efforts to make a cleaner break after Brexit.

What they ignore of course is that the Remain parties in NI have been constantly lobbying the EU to remind them that they represent the majority of voters in NI and so their interests had to be taken into account in the outcome to the negotiations. It is much more convenient to play the victim and believe that the big bad EU is out to get poor old England as it suits their argument more.

I sort of half get that But why the reference of E.U. involvement in the Good Friday agreement?

 

[Walken]

Not only is he wrong, and simplifying a complex issue just so he can grandstand but he speaks like tigger from winnie the pooh

 

[Eggs]

...Ministers being summoned to Downing St amidst rumours May is going to cancel the vote on Tuesday fearing it could ultimately bring down her Govetnment. What a mess.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Those 'voiceless' people had the same level of 'voice' in the referendum as they have every five years in a general election or in local elections, or in EU elections. To suggest they've been disenfranchised for aeons and this crappy referendum was them finally being given a say is absurd.

 

[Tubey]

Not only is he wrong, and simplifying a complex issue just so he can grandstand but he speaks like tigger from winnie the pooh

Massive tirade that doesn't acknowledge that after two years we are no closer to an answer, and instead just bitches about not wanting another referendum because "reasons".

If idiots like him had come up with a solution, nobody would be calling for a second referendum. Obviously.

Seriously, years now to come up with a plan, months now to come up with an alternative to the crap plan put on the table by May, and still nothing whatsoever to show except self-righteous rants like that.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He's spot on regarding the bubble that exists which led to no genuine plan being in place and the danger of not respecting the vote - It'll turn a lot away from mainstream parties and where do the disenfranchised go....

History folks. Know your history.