Current Affairs EU In or Out

[bobbydigital]

All this talk of how much better the economy is or will be inside the EU and the so-called stability it brings is nonsense.

The EU is so good for the youngsters - how does that relate to the 50% youth unemployment in Greece and 30%+ elsewhere.

How about Greece, Italy and Spain have austerity Govts forced upon them?

Financial market stability? I have paid 15% mortgage rates while we have been in the EU, seen UK I/rates rise 5% in ONE day and have seen banks almost go bust. FTSE knee-jerked 8% lower Fri and ended 2.5% down. I have seen the US Dow Jones dump over 25% in one day.

Even the Remain camp have admitted that wages for the low paid on Brexit will rise.

House prices may fall 10-20% and interest rates will hold steady or fall. This will give more of the hard done by youngsters a chance to get in the housing ladder.

Not all bad.

Mate, I really wish it was that simple. Here is a really good balanced article from the Financial Times on the economic effects with points for both sides. Worth a read for both sides even if we don't end up agreeing.

https://next.ft.com/content/70d0bfd8-d1b3-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377

 

[Darth Vader]

The EU decided where the money would go.

Let us see if deprived areas like Wales and Cornwall will continue to receive the same levels of investment after leaving the EU. Same goes for Liverpool.

(They won't)

Do you have the lottery numbers mate?

 

[DualityNSNO]

What Trump seems to overlook is that Scotland voted to stay in the EU. They also declined the opportunity to "take their country back" a while back. The man is a clown............

They also hate Trump - one of his new golf courses up in Aberdeen recently had loads of Mexican flags put up everywhere lol

 

[DualityNSNO]

Do you have the lottery numbers mate?

Don't need to be a fortune teller for that though?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...wered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale?CMP=fb_gu

 

[1966efc]

@The Esk - is an early General Election a real possibility in your view?

If it is - and given the referendum is purely advisory - should Labour & the Lib Dems enter an informal pact to each carry a manifesto pledge not to invoke Article 50?

How would you see such an election turning out?

I have my own views but they are probably coloured by me opinion of Corbyn.

 

[The Esk]

The EU decided where the money would go.

Let us see if deprived areas like Wales and Cornwall will continue to receive the same levels of investment after leaving the EU. Same goes for Liverpool.

(They won't)

Totally agree: look at the EU contribution to Wales:

 

[dandydan]

I don't get it. The working class banded together against the rich to make their voice heard. They got a Tory PM to resign while the chancellor is hiding under his bed hoping it all goes away, and yet lefties who claim to represent the workers are throwing a massive wobbly.
No pleasing some people.

 

[Jib in lad]

Guardian borderlines on far left, i would ignore them really some of their comments in past is really outstandingly twisted.

I understand you want to ignore these incidents but they are happening so they need to be highlighted.

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

Totally agree: look at the EU contribution to Wales:

I was shocked that many people in wales voted out, not much immigration and really benefit from eu funding, just proves the is deeper reasons, such as our courts being over ruled by EU courts, laws being enforced upon the welsh people that has an affect on trade, fishing steel works etc can go on, it is common sense really more you think about it.

 

[roydo]

Totally agree: look at the EU contribution to Wales:

Shame that wasnt the argument Remain didnt focus on.

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

I understand you want to ignore these incidents but they are happening so they need to be highlighted.

'I understand you' same patronsing attitude that lost us the vote.


You're implying I am supporting racism by simply ignoring it.

 

[Yid4life]

For the record.

27% of Black voters voted leave
30% of Muslims
& 33% of people describing themselves as Asian.

Bloody racists!

 

[Darth Vader]

Don't need to be a fortune teller for that though?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...wered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale?CMP=fb_gu

For what?

Yes the EU has given a lot of money to that area, but isn't it basically UK money anyway given the 14b we put in

You can't tell me our government won't invest in areas like Ebbw Vale when nobody has a single clue what will happen

 

[bobbydigital]

I have no idea about that then. What is freedom of movement? I assumed it was about people travelling about rather than connected to trade.

The rights of EU citizens to move and work in other countries. Basically what the whole leave campaign was based around ending.

 

[MikeEFC1878x]

I don't get it. The working class banded together against the rich to make their voice heard. They got a Tory PM to resign while the chancellor is hiding under his bed hoping it all goes away, and yet lefties who claim to represent the workers are throwing a massive wobbly.
No pleasing some people.

It was the old labour vote that won and lot this ref, labour is out of touch and pressure groups like ukip will take more and more working class votes from them even if they're closer to tory.

It is a shame that it has come to this but this ref has shown the difference between average people and elite,


And to some existent London vs rest of england


have big differences.