roydo
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True. But we can state that the EU did. And do.
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True. But we can state that the EU did. And do.
Darth Vader
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It's from money we have given them though
Jib in lad
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You disregarded the article saying the Guardian is highlighting these incidents because it has an agenda yet it is a factual article and not a opinion piece.
I am simply saying that them facts don't fit with your agenda so you ignore them.
do you honestly think thats why though or a lack of grasp of the funding situation ? An article today has a welsh lad standing surrounded by investment asking what have the EU done for him , before realising and pointing out that its our money anyway.
MikeEFC1878x
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Lefy's reaction to the aftermath was reason enough why it was great thing we voted leave, shows the vacuum in politics and how it has gone to the point where it has been dumbed down to stage where:
Anyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi or racist, and they are all for democracy until they lose and they want to discount the vote and carry on anyway.
The Esk
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I do think there will be an early election, later this year after the election of a new Conservative leader - they won't want to repeat the mistake that Gordon Brown made in not seeking an electoral mandate as PM. Of course it will require a 2/3rds majority of the House of Commons first.
Given that it appears that the majority of Labour's core vote voted "Leave" I think they'd find it extremely difficult to do what you are suggesting.
Too early to say what the outcome may be, and it depends upon who the Tories elect as PM but paradoxically I think they've a greater chance of being elected under a "no revoke" banner than Labour.
A national coalition Government committed to "no revoke" created by a pro-European alliance of Labour, leftish Tories, PC, Northern Ireland members and the SNP might be the best route.
does the investment by central government in the regions indicate that they'd be investing that money in Wales or in Liverpool for example if we've left the EU ? I can't see a Johnson and Gove led government funding multi-million investment in those areas myself personally .
toffee matt
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Becoming increasingly obvious that no politician actually has the faintest clue of how Brexit is going to happen or work
Darth Vader
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What does our 14billion go on within the EU?
roydo
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But the overall result of being in is a net benefit to the country. And the fact that deprived areas of Europe can obtain funding from a non political (in their own country, if that makes sense), I would see as a counter weight to a dogmatic Government who may take some pleasure from depriving areas of their country who would never support them anyrate.
Maybe. Maybe not. That is another debate.
This is about more than the immediate future though isn't it? When Labour are next in power would they allocate more money to Liverpool/Wales than the EU gave back?
Nobody knows...
MikeEFC1878x
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I feel the is a big divide between London and rest of uk and even south, and wales felt that deeply, when you have Kahn putting a case as london mayor on one side and then boris ex london mayor on other, it allows people to go ignore both of them and turn to places like Ukip and other sources who have recently took seats from labour in welsh assembly, although ukip is silly party labour and tory has let down the working class full stop and ukip and some lib dems and greens are having a real go at trying to take voters from them.
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