Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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orly said:
But that's it though isn't it? You're doing these mad rants about the Withdrawal Agreement which is "doomed" in parliament.... which is ultimately what you want to happen anyway, so why the incoherent rage posting?

It makes no sense.
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Thats your opinion promote it do not pick on me personally others are worse than you- I will give you that.......
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
Because he called the referendum Bruce! For God's sake man why is that so difficult to accept?! He called the referendum for political gain and therefore should of had a contingency plan for the vote going either way. He should of thought the whole thing through a good deal more thoroughly then he did.

Why did it have to be a simple leave or remain option? Why did he not create a comprehensive referendum with an many options as needed were everyone both leave and remain had to lay out their plans/manifestos, the electorate who could then vote accordingly and the two votes that got the highest margin would then be put back to the people for a second vote? Why could he not of said the winning vote had to carry high enough percentage to be enacted? Why not that all four home nations had to agree?

These are just a few things that I've thought of on the fly. Why in God's name did the Prime Minister who carries the highest power in the land not give any thought to this?!

How can you possibly excuse such breathtaking incompetence?! You wouldn't be defending idiocy like this in any other circumstances but because he was a a remainer all is forgiven? Remain = good and Leave = bad seems to be the order of the day to a large section of voters and it's just a very childish way to view things imo.
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I think you're perhaps making my point better than I could. You're completely right, it was utter madness for Cameron to take us down this path without at least a degree of planning for a leave outcome. That's precisely what I've been arguing, that doing anything without exploring whether it's possible and what are the implications is madness. Cameron's actions are inexcusable, but he could at least say that he neither wanted nor thought leaving was a good idea.

Leave campaigners and leave voters, by contrast have not only done no planning either, but they actually think it's a great idea, despite this lack of prior research. Cameron being a complete prat doesn't absolve you of responsibility. You voted for something that there was no plan for and no belief that it would be a success from any globally recognised body. It's only compounded by the doubling down on this belief even after the last two years have provided ample evidence that this is an absolutely awful idea. It sadly seems common among leave voters to be constantly looking to others to blame. This is I'm afraid a predicament of entirely your own making.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
leave voters, by contrast have not only done no planning either, .
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It's not up to the voters to make the plans, they cast their vote and its up to the powers that be to make the best of it.

I suspect this will be the downfall of the Conservative party for a few elections to come as their voting supporters will be hugely split due to the absolute mess they have made of this since day one.
 
random said:
It's not up to the voters to make the plans, they cast their vote and its up to the powers that be to make the best of it.

I suspect this will be the downfall of the Conservative party for a few elections to come as their voting supporters will be hugely split due to the absolute mess they have made of this since day one.
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No, it's not, but why on earth would you vote for something where literally no one who was in any position of power had done any planning to determine whether it was either a good idea or feasible? Lots of people did analyse it and said it would be a terrible idea, yet you ignored them to put your hat in with people who did none of that planning.
 
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