Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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It's an irrelevant point, like saying a straight lawyer can't fight a case for a gay fella who has suffered discrimination. In the point Joey makes (no tag no tag) it's especially irrelevant
But a gay lawyer could fight a more impassioned case and for me that makes the difference.
 
primary experience can be useful and shouldn't be ignored, but to suggest (not yourself) that anyone without first hand experience is somehow insincere is completely wrong in my opinion
With people such as Corbyn it's a fine line to tread.The right wing press publish facts about his past life that are true,but they phrase them in such as way as to portrait them as detrimental.If someone else just mentions them as simple facts, his supporters construe that as an argumentum ad hominem.
 
Not heard that many in fact its the first time I have heard remain and leave voters unite on the media that this is a very very bad costly deal - it would be easier to stay in the EU - 100 billion minimum is being quoted by and if the time they say we can leave........

I don’t know whether they’re experts you listen to but the institute of economic and social research estimate under this deal GDP would be lower by 3.9% by 2030 so across the board citizens an average of a £1000 worse off .
 
A couple of weeks ago I was at a meeting where the issue of Work Permits for UK workers in Ireland was broached. The general concenus was that UK citizens will need a work permit to work in Ireland post Brexit.

However the current Withdrawal Agreement allows for the status quo to remain intact. Here is an extract from Lexology news feed;

"During the transition period, UK nationals and EU citizens will continue to have the right to take up employment and carry out an economic activity as a self-employed person and will keep all their workers’ rights based on Union law. A person covered by the Withdrawal Agreement who has had his or her professional qualifications recognised in the country where he or she resides or works will be able to continue to rely on the recognition decision in that country. Frontier workers and frontier self-employed workers (i.e. those who are currently nationals of one Member State, reside in another Member State and carry out work in a third Member State) are also protected under the Agreement. This will be particularly welcome news for Irish employers in the vicinity of the border employing EU citizens from countries other than the UK and Ireland where those citizens reside in Northern Ireland"
 
With people such as Corbyn it's a fine line to tread.The right wing press publish facts about his past life that are true,but they phrase them in such as way as to portrait them as detrimental.If someone else just mentions them as simple facts, his supporters construe that as an argumentum ad hominem.
if you read back Josephs posts you can see they were not suggested as facts, but as evidence of his insincerity to causes he has consistently campaigned for over three decades, with a far more consistent attendance record than the sort of politician he see's as 'having more go'
 
I will assume similar, if not much worse, will apply to unravelling the CAP?

The CAP is the only easy thing they have to do, as they will just dole out the same money to the same people.

Fisheries on the other hand will be far more of a betrayal even than Gibraltar was; we will take control and then in the next breath agree to give them even more access whilst getting nothing in return.
 
if you read back Josephs posts you can see they were not suggested as facts, but as evidence of his insincerity to causes he has consistently campaigned for over three decades, with a far more consistent attendance record than the sort of politician he see's as 'having more go'

TBH Davids was probably talking about his own posts rather than Joeys there.
 
I don’t know whether they’re experts you listen to but the institute of economic and social research estimate under this deal GDP would be lower by 3.9% by 2030 so across the board citizens an average of a £1000 worse off .
Economic forecasters that were proved wrong on the Euro, and remain who's stated Armageddon would happen if we dared to vote Out.......
 
if you read back Josephs posts you can see they were not suggested as facts, but as evidence of his insincerity to causes he has consistently campaigned for over three decades, with a far more consistent attendance record than the sort of politician he see's as 'having more go'
Tag me please don't post behind my back please...
 
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