Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Connor]

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement_0.pdf

585 pages. If you have the time.

 

[Khalekan]

Completely disagree tbh.

Cabinet was always likely to back it. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. And they won't give up their nice Jag and other ministerial perks.

Tory backbenchers have nothing to lose really. They don't like the policy. They don't like their leader. They will vote this down. The tories are a ruthless bunch with their own. There is not a mission in the world this goes through parliament.

Well, we will see, Tim.

At last there is a clear vision of Brexit for MPs to focus on,

And the Tories are nowt if not a party of business, particularly small to medium size business

And business very much wants a deal.

Business is heaving a sigh of relief tonight as the threat of no deal starts to recede.

Those Tory MPs will now have a month to digest the fact that disaster can be averted.

That’s what I think anyway.

 

[tsubaki]

Wonder how many years it'll be post-Brexit until we have a 'Should the United Kingdom rejoin the European Union' non-binding referendum.

It depends how long the Tories remain in charge; if its more than five years the question will probably be "A ddylai Prydain ail-ymuno â Ewrop?"

 

[tsubaki]

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement_0.pdf

585 pages. If you have the time.

A highlight so far (this is from the section on State Aid, page 366/7):

ARTICLE 9

Independent authority

1. The United Kingdom shall establish or maintain an operationally independent authority ("the
independent authority"). In performing its duties and exercising its powers,
the independent authority shall have the necessary guarantees of independence from political or other external
influence and shall act impartially.

2. In respect of measures of the United Kingdom authorities that are subject to Article 7(1), the
independent authority shall have powers and functions equivalent to those of the European
Commission acting under the Union State aid law provisions listed in Annex 8 to this
Protocol. The independent authority shall be appropriately equipped with the resources
necessary for the full application and the effective enforcement, in accordance with
Article 7(1), of the Union State aid law provisions listed in Annex 8 to this Protocol. These
resources include human, technical and financial resources, premises and infrastructure.

3. Decisions of the independent authority shall produce in respect of and in the United Kingdom
the same legal effects as those which comparable decisions of the European Commission
acting under the Union State aid law provisions listed in Annex 8 to this Protocol
producewithin the Union and its Member States.

ARTICLE 10

Cooperation

1. With a view to ensuring consistent surveillance in the field of State aid throughout the single
customs territory, the European Commission and the independent authority shall cooperate.

2. The European Commission and the independent authority shall:

(a) exchange information and views on the implementation, application and interpretation
of the Union State aid law provisions listed in Annex 8, and
(b) provide on a case-by-case basis information and exchange views on individual State aid
cases which affect that trade between the parts of the single customs territory which is
subject to Annex 2. The European Commission and the independent authority shall
exchange this information taking into account the limitations imposed by the
requirements of professional and business secrecy.

3.If the independent authority decides to open the procedure referred to in the first and second
subparagraphs of Article 108(2) of the TFEU in respect of measures of the United Kingdom
authorities that are subject to Article 7(1), the independent authority shall communicate that
decision to the European Commission and give it the opportunity to submit its comments in
accordance with the applicable time limits in Regulation (EU) 2015/1589.

4. The independent authority shall consult the European Commission on all draft decisions it
intends to adopt in accordance with Articles 7(1) and 9. The European Commission shall have
up to 3 months to communicate its opinion, and the independent authority shall take utmost
account of that opinion before adopting the decision. In cases of urgency, the independent
authority may invite the Commission to communicate its opinion as soon as possible.
Where the European Commission considers, during the period referred to in the first
subparagraph, that it requires further information before it can formulate its opinion, it may
address a request for additional information to the independent authority. That period shall be
suspended from the date of the European Commission's request, and shall start afresh from
the date of receipt of the independent authority's response. The independent authority shall
not adopt the draft decision until the European Commission has communicated its opinion
in accordance with the first subparagraph.​

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If that is representative of what the deal is, she won't be PM tomorrow.

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[Big_nev]

Still at least our NHS gets an extra 350m pumped in to it now....and you know we can kick all the foreign workers out of our country and get all the jobs back they stole and that mate. No idea how so many of them got careers in our health system either, I for one don't want no foreign sponge looking after my best interest and health.

Country has gone mate, we can claim it back and that.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Wonder how many £s Arlene is going to get this time?

 

[SpongeBob brown shoes]

I might be getting this a bit wrong but was Barnier saying that this is the deal until a final deal is completed by 2020 but that can be extended at the time if needed? The word Brexit will never go away will it

 

[Khalekan]

Still at least our NHS gets an extra 350m pumped in to it now....and you know we can kick all the foreign workers out of our country and get all the jobs back they stole and that mate. No idea how so many of them got careers in our health system either, I for one don't want no foreign sponge looking after my best interest and health.

Country has gone mate, we can claim it back and that.

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That £350 million PER DAY, Nev.

According to that nice Mr. Farage’ bus

It’s all good.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[Ruairi77]

 

[Joey66]

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement_0.pdf

585 pages. If you have the time.

Excellent to light my coal fire with - typical bureaucracy from both sides the lawyers should have had that written a separate legal framework and just the basics out in to avoid the gobbledygook, and small print....

 

[peteblue]

Ah yes, the old experts are sometimes wrong so let's disregard them all the time trope.

Not at all Bruce. I happen to be a recognised expert in my field, but as I’m sure you will agree I’m not always right....

 

[peteblue]

Pretty well sums up Mays approach to this.......we’ve screwed up royally......

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I suppose the silver lining is that May has properly fudged the Tory party good and proper with this technical plan.

 

[thirdmantackle]

I hate to tell you all...

But we told you this would happen