Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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It probably is mate, but if you are going to be an agent provocateur for UKIP or whoever then you really should do your homework before confirming by text what we all suspect. You could start by getting back on topic. The deflection stuff is tedious.

Indeed it is. Perhaps you could stop doing it......
 
Bruce Wayne said:
So they're less free by being part of a group they voted to be a part of, than they are by being forced to remove themselves from that group by virtue of what people in England voted for?

OB2:
Last time I looked, Bruce, Scotland was part of Great Britain.

And the referendum encompassed the whole of Great Britain.

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Bruce: (Absolute silence)

Looks like Bruce is unable to reply, even though he's be back in this thread since my reply.

Looks like it sticks in his craw also to admit to democracy within a given group - Great Britain/United Kingdom.
 
It probably is mate, but if you are going to be an agent provocateur for UKIP or whoever then you really should do your homework before confirming by text what we all suspect. You could start by getting back on topic. The deflection stuff is tedious.
You are boring me as a wum ok.....
Indeed it is. Perhaps you could stop doing it......
Lads less of this please.

It's not Question Time, this is a serious debate......
 
Its taken some time getting around to renaming 'Custom Union'. Wonder what it will end up being called?
My effort, Free Custom Partnership, essentially the same just the free inserted to please the Mail & Express readers, they love meaningless sound bite, and the 'free' is important, it will give the sense of achievement.
 
So apparently, after an exhaustive study of the British people (which almost certainly didn't include asking Pete, Joe or OldBlue), it's clear that the public would like Brexit to be ala Norway - https://www.kcl.ac.uk/sspp/policy-i...of-brexit-do-the-british-people-want-2018.pdf

"People place a high value on having access to the EU markets for trade in goods and services. They like the option for the UK to be able to make its own trade deals. They also value that the UK is able to make its own laws, but not as much as access to the single market or the ability to make trade deals. They worry about freedom of movement, but mostly because of concerns about demand for public services. They strongly dislike the idea of having to get a visa to travel for their holidays.

Netting out positives and negatives, we found that Britons place the most value on a Norway-like deal. In fact, support for this kind of deal – which is based on membership of the European Economic Area (EEA) – has increased in the past year, up from 38% in 2017 to 43% in 2018. Norway is part of the EEA but is not a member of the customs union and can therefore make its own trade deals. We found people value the Norway model more than the current relationship with the EU, in part because Norway is free to make trade deals with non-EU countries. And while a “no-deal” is less popular than remaining, it is considered preferable to a customs union arrangement."

The preference was determined after asking participants to make choices about certain aspects of our relationship with the EU. These options included freedom of movement for holidays and working, access to the single market, ability to make free trade deals, contribution to the EU and sovereignty. It was a follow up from a similar study done last year, and the results placed the Norway model as 1st choice, with staying in the EU as the 2nd choice. Both beat no deal/WTO terms, which came in 3rd.
 
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