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Haha very good, but I believe that was based for politicians just on their beliefs and not for the ones that actually seem to style themselves on Hitler.
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Haha very good, but I believe that was based for politicians just on their beliefs and not for the ones that actually seem to style themselves on Hitler.
Dymak
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I think there is an awful lot of melodrama going on in this process, and it won't be too long until the EU acknowledges that it isn't malevolent or indeed stupid enough to choose WTO trading terms in favour of a perfectly reasonable trading agreement, just to punish both the UK and their own people because one of its members decided to enact its right to regain its sovereignty.
It would be quite disgraceful if they did do that, but I don't think they are that crazy.
It would be quite disgraceful if they did do that, but I don't think they are that crazy.
peteblue
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This is where it will probably end up, but who knows as it’s all up to Brussels........
Dymak
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Yep, the decision is in their hands. I can't see them being crazy enough to go 'no deal' when we will be offering a perfectly reasonable trade deal. They would look incredibly childish if they did.
The binman chronicles
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Problem is if they do that what is stopping other members from doing the exact same thing?
Even if the people in charge of the other EU countries say there is no risk, individual groups that are against the EU will then be given a valid platform...If the UK can get a deal then so can we.
Dymak
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Well, I reckon any member that is thinking of leaving could look at our whopping divorce bill and start from there. What type of organisation is this, if it is one that imposes heavy sanctions on any country that chooses to regain its sovereignty?
Nah, I can't see them being that childish.
Outside the Westminster bubble in out areas attitudes have hardened v the EU - a deal will be done .....
The French oyster War - remember when they stopped our vehicles on the French border and burnt our Lamb as it was so superior to theirs ... nothing changes in a naff currupt club of an EU Polictical commission unelected .....
Then why don't the Labour cabinet announce it .......too scared of the backlashes at the poll booths.....
The binman chronicles
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Although I have read on here people saying that Corbyn is pro-EU, imho I think he is quite comfortable with the UK leaving.
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I hope you are right and we are just playing a giant game of chicken where the EU will blink first. Nothing would give me greater pleasure to be completely wrong about this.
The problem is I can see them being that childish and turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
HMRC have issued VAT guidance in the event of a no deal Brexit.
Will read it at some point.
Will read it at some point.
It really is a shame that so few seem to understand the words they bandy about. The 'divorce bill' is not a sanction at all, it is the honouring of financial commitments Britain has agreed to. I think you'll find that is at the heart of any long-term relationship in the adult world, as without their existing trust that each party will do what it said it will do, you have nothing.
That is fundamentally all the EU are doing. They said before the vote, after the vote and at all stages of the negotiation that the 4 freedoms are sacrosanct, and will not be compromised to give Britain a special deal. All that has happened is that the bluster that Brexiteers initially had about them needing us more than we need them, has been slowly ground down by the reality of the situation.
All of this for an undefined regain of sovereignty that not a single leave voter (in this thread at least) can actually specify. It's become a useless catch all term to cover some apparent benefit without having to be specific about exactly what rule they're looking forward to changing (largely because they don't have a clue). I'm sorry, but this is the real world, not fantasy land, so it's time to get real.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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No, the decision has been in our hands for over 2 years. They even provided a graph with pictures so that even docile morons like David Davis could clearly see the trade options available to the U.K. from the EU’s perspective. The idea that the the U.K. is somehow waiting for the EU to offer them anything is an ill informed and inaccurate comment,
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Comments like this merely reinforce the notion that people from your generation who are shielded from the economic backdraft of Brexit can afford to put ideology and soundbite dogma ahead of economic pragmatism, as you’re not a significant stakeholder in the fiscal outcome.
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^To put it midly....
Conservatives after Thatcher are leaves that don't/won't understand they belong to trees.
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