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[roydo]

If you want an insight into the mind and motives of Rees Mogg, read the book his late father co-wrote 20 years ago. The Sovereign Individual. Truly frightening.

I didnt judge Corbyn on stuff his Dad committed to print, so I wouldnt do so with Rees Mogg.

I am clear in my conscience that my EU views were not clouded by folk I find pretty unappealing, be they politicians, social media "celebs", or real folk I met.

edit. Actually, Miliband, not Corbyn. Soz.

 

[Joey66]

Last time I looked Joe, Blair wasnt involved in leading a campaign. You may as well say Great Aunt Nell voted to Remain. Point is, you agree with folk like Farage, Boris, and Rees Mogg. Who did head up your campaign.

End Of, as you would say.

edit. And come to think of it, you dont like Corbyn, (remain/Labour), you dont like Blair, (remain/Labour), what actual living Socialist do you believe tells the truth? Farage?

Let's look who wants to stay in the EU - in total mainly the wealthy forget personalities it's the very rich who don't want to accept democracy- end of - Corbyn is not a big supporter of the EU precisly on that point - CBI big business get a grant if the EU the latest fundraiser for the Remain camp is a Blairite - They are indefensible estimating that people want to remain the Westminster bubble is not listening again if May is desposec in October the reset button may be reset in the negotiations, and a real leader will get negotiated terms in the UKs favour......

 

[roydo]

Let's look who wants to stay in the EU - in total mainly the wealthy forget personalities it's the very rich who don't want to accept democracy- end of - Corbyn is not a big supporter of the EU precisly on that point - CBI big business get a grant if the EU the latest fundraiser for the Remain camp is a Blairite - They are indefensible estimating that people want to remain the Westminster bubble is not listening again if May is desposec in October the reset button may be reset in the negotiations, and a real leader will get negotiated terms in the UKs favour......

Or you could answer the question.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Let's look who wants to stay in the EU - in total mainly the wealthy forget personalities it's the very rich who don't want to accept democracy- end of - Corbyn is not a big supporter of the EU precisly on that point - CBI big business get a grant if the EU the latest fundraiser for the Remain camp is a Blairite - They are indefensible estimating that people want to remain the Westminster bubble is not listening again if May is desposec in October the reset button may be reset in the negotiations, and a real leader will get negotiated terms in the UKs favour......

It’s not - end of though. You ignore the likes of the Barclay brothers and Viscount Rothermere, 3 of the major reasons for the result, as they own the Telegraph and the Daily Mail respectively, billionaires with their own tax avoidance agenda. You’ve seemingly bought the line that it was a ‘vote against the establishment’ which is hilarious when it’s veracity is even vaguely examined.

 

[Joey66]

Or you could answer the question.

You should ask yourself why do the very rich want to force to stay in the EU - they are and have been since the democratic vote still running the Remain campain - 1975 since the last referendum forthe UK to stay in the the common single market - no arguments we stayed in - it the morthed into a pollitical union -with treaties out of our control - the public after a campaign that both used propaganda voted Out if Remain had won the result would have been rightly accepted by our government.....
If Remain is so popular why are the Lib Dems not soaring in the polls?.........
Again the very rich are financing it, and again using project fear.......

 

[Harryflashman]

You should ask yourself why do the very rich want to force to stay in the EU - they are and have been since the democratic vote still running the Remain campain - 1975 since the last referendum forthe UK to stay in the the common single market - no arguments we stated in it the morthed into a pollitical union - the public after a campaign that both used propaganda voted Out if Remain had won the result would have been rightly accepted by our government.....
If Remain is so popular why are the Lib Dems not soaring in the polls?.........

You can surely accept a lot of very very rich people want us to leave ? I mean can you not accept that , from richest man in the UK down . I mean providing we can still count ratcliffe now he’s going to live in Monaco post Brexit

 

[roydo]

You should ask yourself why do the very rich want to force to stay in the EU - they are and have been since the democratic vote still running the Remain campain - 1975 since the last referendum forthe UK to stay in the the common single market - no arguments we stated in it the morthed into a pollitical union - the public after a campaign that both used propaganda voted Out if Remain had won the result would have been rightly accepted by our government.....
If Remain is so popular why are the Lib Dems not soaring in the polls?.........

"The Rich". lol.

I am just bemused that you cannot answer a simple question mate. You dont like Corbyn, (remain/Labour). You dont like Blair, (remain/Labour), yet you do follow Farage, (leave/rich/closet tory), Boris, (leave/rich/tory) and Rees Mogg, (leave/rich/tory).

Just dont get it mate.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

You can surely accept a lot of very very rich people want us to leave ? I mean can you not accept that , from richest man in the UK down . I mean providing we can still count ratcliffe now he’s going to live in Monaco post Brexit

He sees what he wants to see, and acknowledges what he chooses to acknowledge. He’s decided the ‘rich’ have some form of dastardly plan to keep us in the EU and thus retain the status quo for purely fiscal reasons, but hasn’t bothered to ask himself why these people are so concerned about their businesses and thus wealth due to Brexit.

 

[orchard]

I didnt judge Corbyn on stuff his Dad committed to print, so I wouldnt do so with Rees Mogg.

I am clear in my conscience that my EU views were not clouded by folk I find pretty unappealing, be they politicians, social media "celebs", or real folk I met.

edit. Actually, Miliband, not Corbyn. Soz.

Mogg's on record declaring his assent for his father's intellectual trajectory and the influence his father's work has had on him.

 

[peteblue]

I cycle past the school Farage went to reasonably often. Man of the people isn't he?

Corbyn’s wasn’t too shabby either...

 

[The binman chronicles]

We all should get a vote whether we want to leave or not when we have the full facts on what is going to happen regarding the Ireland situation and what trade terms/divorce settlement we will face. I can't believe the leavers are worried about a second referendum if they are so sure of the benefits for leaving...oh hang on a minute! They aren't confident in their own arguments. Because instead of being told this time that there is going to be cherry pie for everyone, people will be told the truth that the cherries will actually be made from excrement and at best there is a very outside chance that things will be better...but probably it's just going to be a massive clusterbeep from start to finish that will see us return to the dark ages for a decade or so. Ok for people who are retired or almost retired to take that gamble, after all their houses have been paid off and they are free from worry if they will still have a job to go to post leaving.

 

[peteblue]

We all should get a vote whether we want to leave or not when we have the full facts on what is going to happen regarding the Ireland situation and what trade terms/divorce settlement we will face. I can't believe the leavers are worried about a second referendum if they are so sure of the benefits for leaving...oh hang on a minute! They aren't confident in their own arguments. Because instead of being told this time that there is going to be cherry pie for everyone, people will be told the truth that the cherries will actually be made from excrement and at best there is a very outside chance that things will be better...but probably it's just going to be a massive clusterbeep from start to finish that will see us return to the dark ages for a decade or so. Ok for people who are retired or almost retired to take that gamble, after all their houses have been paid off and they are free from worry if they will still have a job to go to post leaving.

So, what are you frightened of........

 

[Joey66]

"The Rich". lol.

I am just bemused that you cannot answer a simple question mate. You dont like Corbyn, (remain/Labour). You dont like Blair, (remain/Labour), yet you do follow Farage, (leave/rich/closet tory), Boris, (leave/rich/tory) and Rees Mogg, (leave/rich/tory).

Just dont get it mate.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ins-big-prediction-black-friday-a7102481.html
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...drastic-action-needed-for-eurozone-to-survive
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/eu-referendum-brexit-supporters-opponents
You don't get it - this guy is making a fortune on pushing to remain......
the others have a few bob too hardly socialist are they...........

 

[Joey66]

You can surely accept a lot of very very rich people want us to leave ? I mean can you not accept that , from richest man in the UK down . I mean providing we can still count ratcliffe now he’s going to live in Monaco post Brexit

you pick one person - how many non socialist rich are pushing to remain..........
do not class Multi millionaire Blair either all self interest - one aim to flawed democrocy........
the Leave means Leave campaign will start soon.........
http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/...we-why-working-class-people-voted-for-brexit/
https://www.leavemeansleave.eu/

 

[Joey66]

We all should get a vote whether we want to leave or not when we have the full facts on what is going to happen regarding the Ireland situation and what trade terms/divorce settlement we will face. I can't believe the leavers are worried about a second referendum if they are so sure of the benefits for leaving...oh hang on a minute! They aren't confident in their own arguments. Because instead of being told this time that there is going to be cherry pie for everyone, people will be told the truth that the cherries will actually be made from excrement and at best there is a very outside chance that things will be better...but probably it's just going to be a massive clusterbeep from start to finish that will see us return to the dark ages for a decade or so. Ok for people who are retired or almost retired to take that gamble, after all their houses have been paid off and they are free from worry if they will still have a job to go to post leaving.

It was done 2 years ago the voting paper was from our sovereign parliament voted in lay out by 6-1 in favour as was the campaign leading up to the vote...
oh and both sides used propaganda one leaflet for remain cost us £8 million- full of inaccuracies = pro remain ....