Ratkiller
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Obviously the blind decision was more appealing than the direction we could see.
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Obviously the blind decision was more appealing than the direction we could see.
It really is, I'm afraid.
Ashtonian
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So a million people signed for a new referendum.
Wonder if they will go ahead with it? I'd actually argue with thst level of support they should consider it as the vote was so close and everyone hold their hands up and say we didn't approach this in the right way and actually tell the facts rather than to scare people.
If the vote came back leave again then at least they tried. Right now they are leaving the EU based on misinformation and scare mongering. It is a joke actually.
I mean my vote may change in the future if the facts are laid out to me and I agree with them. I don't know the details that I should so I'm behind my leave vote instead .
Wonder if they will go ahead with it? I'd actually argue with thst level of support they should consider it as the vote was so close and everyone hold their hands up and say we didn't approach this in the right way and actually tell the facts rather than to scare people.
If the vote came back leave again then at least they tried. Right now they are leaving the EU based on misinformation and scare mongering. It is a joke actually.
I mean my vote may change in the future if the facts are laid out to me and I agree with them. I don't know the details that I should so I'm behind my leave vote instead .
Foot Long Hot Dog
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He'll notice when inflation rises, interest rates go up, GDP falls as external investment dries up and unemployment rises. It'll dawn on him at that point that he's monumentally cocked up
Ratkiller
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We can discount Scotland now seeing as they're going their own way and the majority is bigger.
Kiwi
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Why did you vote if you didn't know the details then?
Honestly think this is a very silly way of going about it.
If there's a vote that's going to directly impact me and my country's future, I'm going to do the research, have a look at both arguments and come to a conclusion about what I think is best.
The Esk
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I've never been accused of being a scaremonger nor in the same camp as Cameron mate lol
Of course Europe will still want to sell us their goods, but that's of no great interest to us. Whether we can achieve the same export terms as previously for our goods though is a very different matter and is up for discussion for sure.
My point is that investment in the UK and into the UK is going to fall sharply in coming months. As a result the economy will slow further, tax revenues fall and we enter another cycle of public spending cuts. That is the inevitable and immediate consequence of leaving the EU without knowing the terms we will trade on in future years.
A majority made up with a large portion of pensioners who shouldn't even be allowed to drive never mind decide an entire nations future.
The majority of logical people voted to remain.
Ratkiller
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Might not be so noticeable if 3 million Europeans head back into Europe. House prices will come down , hospitals and doctors surgeries will be less crowded.
And sports direct and the like could go bust.
It's not all doom and gloom.
Ashtonian
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I'm going to vote because people died and suffered to give me the right to. Simple as that really.
And that is the thing, I did look into it. I know a few weeks ago I was offering reasons that weren't good enough but at that point I didn't care. I did read articles and opinions and whatever else in the run up to it and that is what swayed me one way or the other. But the facts were harder to come by than opinions, so that was what a lot of people voted using.
There's the flaw in your argument. There AREN'T any other nations in the same boat as us.
Norway and Switzerland are net exporters to the EU; we are net importers FROM the EU.
We contribute 12.5% (gross) of the entire budget of the EU. When you factor in EU spending in each member state in order to identify the biggest net contributors, the percentage we contribute GROWS. Only Germany pays in more (net) than we do.
Financially the EU as an organisation is dependent on us to such a degree that it may well not be able to continue existing if we leave. Additionally, large numbers of large European corporations make a large chunk of their profits in the UK. Therefore we hold a far stronger negotiation position than Norway or Switzerland did when they negotiated their terms - the EU won't be pushing for anything, they'll actually be giving us an awful lot of what we ask for.
Ratkiller
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The minority included a large contingent of people who think drinking Buckfast , eating haggis, deep fried Mars bars and men wearing skirts is acceptable.
Hardly logical.
I would take away our funding of the Barnett formula which they rely on 100%, and they will be like Greece in the EU - their football team could not qualify for Europe yet Sturgeon thinks she can stay in ?????lolWe can discount Scotland now seeing as they're going their own way and the majority is bigger.
Darth Vader
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Right
We need a new referendum with new rules
These people can't vote
Jobless
Over 60
From the north east or Burnley
Anyone with a union jack/bulldog tattoo
People who start there debate with "I'm not racist but"
We need a new referendum with new rules
These people can't vote
Jobless
Over 60
From the north east or Burnley
Anyone with a union jack/bulldog tattoo
People who start there debate with "I'm not racist but"
By definition, a majority was exactly what it was
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