Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Seriously Joe, supporting the likes of him, Farage, Johnson et al, you couldn't be further from a socialist if you tried.
Did I say I was supporting him just stated he stood in this am on LBC,and aired his views in public - pity Phillip Hammond could not do that.........
I was going out this am but it was drizzling heavy - put LBC on the usual guy was away so he was on he got on with an open debate on Brexit more than James O'brien would ever do...
oh he turned up unlike Vince your leader of your party .....
I like to here good debate from both sides of a dispute unlike the bigotry of Mr James O'Brien........
who you flash up bruce for me to listen to knowing how much I dislike him........
I listened to him before Brexit resulted in out then turned him off - you mention the others they are on LBC they give answers not tirades of abuse to anyone telephoning in who don't agree with them.......
 
From the Economist this week

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MOST forecasts suggest that Britain will be a poorer country after Brexit, largely because trading with the European Union will become more difficult. Such predictions about the distant future are, by their nature, open to doubt, which is partly why Brexit’s proponents feel free to dismiss them. But the same does not apply to a new paper by Meredith Crowley, Oliver Exton and Lu Han from Cambridge University, which suggests that, months before Brexit has even happened, trade is already suffering, as firms respond to the prospect of higher tariffs.

More than 100,000 British businesses export goods to the EU each year. At present they enjoy tariff-free trade with the country’s biggest export market. But all face uncertainty as Britain negotiates a new trading relationship with Brussels. Some fear disaster if the talks break down. British carmakers could face a 10% tariff to export to the EU market. Dairies might have to pay tariffs of more than 30%. These extra costs could make exporting uneconomic.


The Cambridge paper looks at the exporting decisions of British firms, across 8,000 types of product, in response to the tariffs that Britain would face in the event of reaching no trade deal with the EU. Where necessary, they adjust their calculations to take account of exchange-rate fluctuations.

Since the referendum many companies appear to have reduced their exports to the EU. The research suggests that the bigger the potential tariff facing a product, the more nervous firms are about exporting it. Why risk producing for a market that could soon become unwelcoming? Overall, the number of companies that began exporting new products to the EU in 2016 would have been 5% higher if there had been a Remain vote, the paper finds.

It is hard to know what those firms that decided against producing for the EU did instead. The research finds little evidence, however, that they have lived up to the hopes of Brexiteers and boosted their exports to fast-growing non-EU markets. Some may have tried to sell more within Britain. Businesses may have only temporarily scaled down their production of exports for the EU. Normal service could resume if Britain negotiates a good trade deal.

But some damage is already done. The paper’s results imply that in 2016 Britain lost some £1bn ($1.3bn) of exports to the EU because of the mere threat of higher tariffs. The long-term impact will be greater. Some of the firms dissuaded from exporting would have turned into big beasts. The referendum was only halfway through 2016, and the paper does not analyse data after that year. Meanwhile, Brexit uncertainty continues to rise.
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Bruce, that's a typical 'remoaner' article. Talk about looking at one side of the argument only. What about the other side? All the business (80bn surplus) the EU get from us. Yes, they are going to walk away from that and thank the elite in Brussels for ensuring that the EU project stays on track. The elite in Brussels are on the back foot over migration, this will pale into insignificance compared with the flack they will get over trade.
 
Bruce, that's a typical 'remoaner' article. Talk about looking at one side of the argument only. What about the other side? All the business (80bn surplus) the EU get from us. Yes, they are going to walk away from that and thank the elite in Brussels for ensuring that the EU project stays on track. The elite in Brussels are on the back foot over migration, this will pale into insignificance compared with the flack they will get over trade.

It's based upon a study from Oxford and Cambridge universities. I take it you've read the paper?
 
Bruce, that's a typical 'remoaner' article. Talk about looking at one side of the argument only. What about the other side? All the business (80bn surplus) the EU get from us. Yes, they are going to walk away from that and thank the elite in Brussels for ensuring that the EU project stays on track. The elite in Brussels are on the back foot over migration, this will pale into insignificance compared with the flack they will get over trade.

It’s pointless, Remainers believe that it’s the U.K. only that will suffer, the EU will just serenely sail on and will not lose anything while the U.K. will become a wasteland. They have to believe this, otherwise there is no point to remaining in the EU and that would shatter the dream.......
 
It’s pointless, Remainers believe that it’s the U.K. only that will suffer, the EU will just serenely sail on and will not lose anything while the U.K. will become a wasteland. They have to believe this, otherwise there is no point to remaining in the EU and that would shatter the dream.......

Another one disputing a paper that they won't have read. Awesome :lol:
 
It's based upon a study from Oxford and Cambridge universities. I take it you've read the paper?

Bruce the paper is titled ‘The exposure of U.K. exports to EU tariffs, quotas and anti dumping under no deal’ . It’s very name gives you some clue as to the one sided look of the report. Yes, life will be harder and there may be losses as a result. Now, how about pulling up a similar report on the exposure of EU exports to U.K. tariffs etc, and let’s then see a balance and the sheer stupidity of the EU not doing a deal. The U.K., because of all the doom mongering understands all this, the EU appear not to, and why should they when all we do is look at it from the point of view of how the U.K. will be decimated......
 
Someone pointed out the Tory rebels in the present government are the rebels yet it indeed the remainers led by Hammond an co as they are going against the democratic vote of the leave vote they are the rebels.....
 
Someone pointed out the Tory rebels in the present government are the rebels yet it indeed the remainers led by Hammond an co as they are going against the democratic vote of the leave vote they are the rebels.....
I’m guessing Rees Mogg or the Express told you that...

How are these cabinet members going against the democratic vote ffs?
 
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