Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Hang on, are we all voting to strike or are we all voting to leave and set up on our own? I think striking for what you want is a fine idea.
The last time you set up on your own, you became a huge multinational that treated your foreign employees like dirt. Union busting was all the rage!
I am still a member of a trade union and have been on strike on the picket line ok........
I have also helped my wife in self employment- I envied the freedom descion making of the small business......
 
I am still a member of a trade union and have been on strike on the picket line ok........
I have also helped my wife in self employment- I envied the freedom descion making of the small business......
eh???
It was an analogy that you started.
Then you continued and your analogy went to pieces.
People strike for a better deal or better conditions. They don't strike for better severance after handing in their notice.
I'm happy you're a member of a trade union. Heaven forbid they make any political decisions on your behalf.
 
eh???
It was an analogy that you started.
Then you continued and your analogy went to pieces.
People strike for a better deal or better conditions. They don't strike for better severance after handing in their notice.
I'm happy you're a member of a trade union. Heaven forbid they make any political decisions on your behalf.
They strike and negotiate hard for a better deal ... not cave in and moan or be a rebel ........
Union means stand together, comradeship if its a ballot accept the result and go on strike - as they say in Lancashire just a comparison if the cap fits then wear it..........
 
A lot of you are wasting your time.

Ultimately, the likes of @peteblue and @Joey66 don't really give two shits about the economic/societal impacts Brexit will have.

Don’t be silly, I appreciate you are young and have far left leanings, but you will grow up one day and become a sensible person and will then appreciate what those who voted Leave have given you.......
 
They strike and negotiate hard for a better deal ... not cave in and moan or be a rebel ........
Union means stand together, comradeship if its a ballot accept the result and go on strike - as they say in Lancashire just a comparison if the cap fits then wear it..........
Alright Joe, so say Brexiteers are the union.
The union = people who are unhappy with the EU.
The EU = the company
well, then the union sent Cameron in to negotiate, he failed.
Here's where it doesn't work. Instead of striking for a better deal, the union took a vote and agreed to resign en mass with no plan for redundancy payments or alternative employment for it's members.
Brexit = shockingly badly run union.

If you want to leave a company, you just leave.
If you want better pay and conditions, you strike.
Brexit folded before the strike.
 
From the Economist this week

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MOST forecasts suggest that Britain will be a poorer country after Brexit, largely because trading with the European Union will become more difficult. Such predictions about the distant future are, by their nature, open to doubt, which is partly why Brexit’s proponents feel free to dismiss them. But the same does not apply to a new paper by Meredith Crowley, Oliver Exton and Lu Han from Cambridge University, which suggests that, months before Brexit has even happened, trade is already suffering, as firms respond to the prospect of higher tariffs.

More than 100,000 British businesses export goods to the EU each year. At present they enjoy tariff-free trade with the country’s biggest export market. But all face uncertainty as Britain negotiates a new trading relationship with Brussels. Some fear disaster if the talks break down. British carmakers could face a 10% tariff to export to the EU market. Dairies might have to pay tariffs of more than 30%. These extra costs could make exporting uneconomic.


The Cambridge paper looks at the exporting decisions of British firms, across 8,000 types of product, in response to the tariffs that Britain would face in the event of reaching no trade deal with the EU. Where necessary, they adjust their calculations to take account of exchange-rate fluctuations.

Since the referendum many companies appear to have reduced their exports to the EU. The research suggests that the bigger the potential tariff facing a product, the more nervous firms are about exporting it. Why risk producing for a market that could soon become unwelcoming? Overall, the number of companies that began exporting new products to the EU in 2016 would have been 5% higher if there had been a Remain vote, the paper finds.

It is hard to know what those firms that decided against producing for the EU did instead. The research finds little evidence, however, that they have lived up to the hopes of Brexiteers and boosted their exports to fast-growing non-EU markets. Some may have tried to sell more within Britain. Businesses may have only temporarily scaled down their production of exports for the EU. Normal service could resume if Britain negotiates a good trade deal.

But some damage is already done. The paper’s results imply that in 2016 Britain lost some £1bn ($1.3bn) of exports to the EU because of the mere threat of higher tariffs. The long-term impact will be greater. Some of the firms dissuaded from exporting would have turned into big beasts. The referendum was only halfway through 2016, and the paper does not analyse data after that year. Meanwhile, Brexit uncertainty continues to rise.
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Just been listening to Jacob Rees Mogg on LBC for two hours - very educated man, answered everything on Brexit the ones against him and the ones for him very enlightening on Brexit started of with a small poem from Rudyard Kipling imo he was spot on the way the EU treats us, and how it functions even in the city where he admitted where he used to work and still does business it holds the UK back.........
The blot on the landscape on Brexit at Chequers -PHILIP HAMMOND an avid Remainer who is trying his best to keep us in the EU - now we here Ledson told May Chequers was a betrayal of the people when the document unravels - May will go in the Autumn imo!
 
Alright Joe, so say Brexiteers are the union.
The union = people who are unhappy with the EU.
The EU = the company
well, then the union sent Cameron in to negotiate, he failed.
Here's where it doesn't work. Instead of striking for a better deal, the union took a vote and agreed to resign en mass with no plan for redundancy payments or alternative employment for it's members.
Brexit = shockingly badly run union.

If you want to leave a company, you just leave.
If you want better pay and conditions, you strike.
Brexit folded before the strike.
That's why we were negotiating yesterday, it looks like WTO atm........
 
It's fine not to have the answers!
Outside the EU -
Pragmatically speaking, by retaining and shadowing EU trade agreements and ongoing talks, it may be possible for Britain to have trade deals with over 80 countries not too long after Brexit. By offering tariff-free imports of agricultural products from developing countries, the UK can also quickly notch up some limited trade agreements that helps preserve cheap access to foodstuffs. With that foundation, Britain would have trade deals with about half of the world’s economies which could serve as a template with which to negotiate further FTAs. In deciding which countries to pursue, it would be advisable to consider which trade deals can help promote Britain as a ‘hub’ for international trade. That would help make the country ‘Global Britain’.
 
Just been listening to Jacob Rees Mogg on LBC for two hours - very educated man, answered everything on Brexit the ones against him and the ones for him very enlightening on Brexit started of with a small poem from Rudyard Kipling imo he was spot on the way the EU treats us, and how it functions even in the city where he admitted where he used to work and still does business it holds the UK back.........
The blot on the landscape on Brexit at Chequers -PHILIP HAMMOND an avid Remainer who is trying his best to keep us in the EU - now we here Ledson told May Chequers was a betrayal of the people when the document unravels - May will go in the Autumn imo!

Seriously Joe, supporting the likes of him, Farage, Johnson et al, you couldn't be further from a socialist if you tried.
 
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