Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Joey66]

If only the leave campaign had been so succinct we wouldn’t have had any of these issues @Joey66

Only if the Remain campaign had not used project fear they may have won........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That we trade worldwide and need them even less......
They are bricking it as if we and we will be successful other countries will leave , and kill the dream of a bureaucratic waste of money the United states of Europe ....
talking of wasting money before barncakes speech they had an employee cleaning perfectly ne plastic lantern to hold his jackanory papers prior to his speech......
Brussels the house of plenty that gives us nothing........

I was hoping for a specific example Joe as I'm not really sure what Barnier is on about. Maybe you don't either, that's certainly possible.

 

[peteblue]

What will that competitive edge be Pete?

I don’t know Bruce, it will be different for every product and service by territory. I would have thought we will be freer to change our tax rates and rules to assist competitive external sales. Our VAT position will change dramatically in our trade with a 3rd party EU, both in and out, and if we dropped it completely from intra U.K. sales, we will remove massive administrative burdens and costs. I should ask Barnier, he seems to be pretty frightened of it....

 

[Old Blue 2]

And a nice little song for y'all on a Friday afternoon.


Changes, circles spinning
Can't tell the finish from the beginning
Crying, tears of fire
Can't tell the honest man from a liar

Building, private prisons
Keeps crazy heads from changing decisions
Walking, string of wire
To tell the living man from a dyer

Changes, circles spinning
Can't tell the finish from the beginning
Crying, tears of fire
Can't tell the honest man from a liar

Love it!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don’t know Bruce, it will be different for every product and service by territory. I would have thought we will be freer to change our tax rates and rules to assist competitive external sales. Our VAT position will change dramatically in our trade with a 3rd party EU, both in and out, and if we dropped it completely from intra U.K. sales, we will remove massive administrative burdens and costs. I should ask Barnier, he seems to be pretty frightened of it....

Indeed, but equally you seem quite vexed by his statement as well so I wondered what you thought he meant as the clips I've found don't exactly help matters. It was presumably a much longer press conference than the 90 second clip I've seen, so maybe context cleared things up? I've found the full session btw, which you can view below if you so wish.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

We can't dig for victory as we have already won the out vote that was a victory.......

Perfectly sums up Brexiteers, they believe one battle wins the war when really it's a number of battles, and it would certainly help if the other battles were not within Brexit itself. They said it was easy yet when it mattered they walked away as the errant father's always do!

 

[Joey66]

Perfectly sums up Brexiteers, they believe one battle wins the war when really it's a number of battles, and it would certainly help if the other battles were not within Brexit itself. They said it was easy yet when it mattered they walked away as the erant father's always do!

That's why Remainers got the Remoaners title - instead of back biting they are null and void of thinking positive trading worldwide and Europe as an individual country - not subsidising a sinking ship.......

 

[roydo]

That's why Remainers got the Remoaners title - instead of back biting they are null and void of thinking positive trading worldwide and Europe as an individual country - not subsidising a sinking ship.......

Short memory there Joe. I would absolutely like the country to get united and get the best deal possible. Said it many times. But the petty games on all sides, and the absolute refusal to acknowledge any other point of view/concern is frankly, sole destroying.

 

[Chewbacca]

I don’t know Bruce, it will be different for every product and service by territory. I would have thought we will be freer to change our tax rates and rules to assist competitive external sales. Our VAT position will change dramatically in our trade with a 3rd party EU, both in and out, and if we dropped it completely from intra U.K. sales, we will remove massive administrative burdens and costs. I should ask Barnier, he seems to be pretty frightened of it....

Much more likely to be cutting the minimum wage, benefits, contracts and company pensions.

 

[Joey66]

Short memory there Joe. I would absolutely like the country to get united and get the best deal possible. Said it many times. But the petty games on all sides, and the absolute refusal to acknowledge any other point of view/concern is frankly, sole destroying.

It is but no way was balmpot going to agree on everything today that was predicted ....
That's why going in with basically the old original common market deal was iffy ....
A deal will be done in the end imo?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That's why Remainers got the Remoaners title - instead of back biting they are null and void of thinking positive trading worldwide and Europe as an individual country - not subsidising a sinking ship.......

Ok, I accept show me some Brexiteer positivity.
So what positive trade shall we receive from America first USA? However, im aware from what I can ascertain the smaller trade partner of any trade deal always gets scraps from the larger partner, can you show me otherwise?
Indeed enlighten me of your brand of socialism and the free trade deal with Free market seeking America?
The logic is a bit too wonky, however, looking forward to your answers!

 

[Joey66]

Ok, I accept show me some Brexiteer positivity.
So what positive trade shall we receive from America first USA? However, im aware from what I can ascertain the smaller trade partner of any trade deal always gets scraps from the larger partner, can you show me otherwise?
Indeed enlighten me of your brand of socialism and the free trade deal with Free market seeking America?
The logic is a bit too wonky, however, looking forward to your answers!

Worldwide without tarrifs ........

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Worldwide without tarrifs ........

Not really an answer is it. So what about tariff free trade deal with America first USA, recent evidence suggests America likes tariffs to get what it wants. How is this positive?

 

[Joey66]

Not really an answer is it. So what about tariff free trade deal with America first USA, recent evidence suggests America likes tariffs to get what it wants. How is this positive?

What would rather do work for yourself or a firm that bleeds you dry........

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

What would rather do work for yourself or a firm that bleeds you dry........

Just trying to follow your logic, which if you don't mind is a bit wonky. However, can I take you back to my questions? The context of my questionTariff free trade deals with America first USA, which endorses tarrifs to get what it wants! I would like to know why I should not be a remoaner?