Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
I’ve always admired Kate Hoey as an MP, Frank Field as well. It would be a shame if she were to suffer, which I doubt incidentally, and Frank Field represents the only area of the Wirral that voted to leave so he will be ok......
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As I said, as a constituency MP she has been (and is) really good. None of that will matter at the next General Election, it will all be about how she helped bring it about and in a constituency that voted 77% to Remain she will lose (unless the Lib Dems do their usual of refusing to not stand but insisting that anyone who does stand blocks their unity candidate).
 
roydo said:
If I did, it wasnt deliberate.

Anyrate, as Pete alluded to, we have moved on. But my point was in response to him saying "we" waded in, was that you raised the issue, not me, or "us".
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My point was the UK is and has always excepted controlled immigration and we do have a big skill shortage the white paper has just been amended , and passed now it's down to the EU to look at it and negotiate it I agreed with you it's been a dogs mess two years to come up with this, but the UK have let the EU dictate the format of the negotiations trade should have been on the agenda very early on as soon as we agreed the divorce bill!
Time is now running out we needed a trade deal well before this to settle the business side to stop uncertainty etc etc
It just never happened no one wants to be PM ATM , that includes Corbyn .......
 
tsubaki said:
No, it won't. A no deal Brexit with this Government would be horrifying - for a start, there are 1.5 million Brits and 3.5 million EU citizens who would have no legal right to live where they have lived for some time; would you or anyone trust the likes of Rees-Mogg not to start the send-them-back dance?
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If our government tried to expel EU citizens, who we have already said can stay here and under what conditions, there would be rebellion and they know it. I would be more concerned for those 1.5M U.K. citizens within the EU, but I’m sure that a deal for them all would be agreed....
 
tsubaki said:
As I said, as a constituency MP she has been (and is) really good. None of that will matter at the next General Election, it will all be about how she helped bring it about and in a constituency that voted 77% to Remain she will lose (unless the Lib Dems do their usual of refusing to not stand but insisting that anyone who does stand blocks their unity candidate).
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Of course if Brexit is going well then she will get in again......
 
peteblue said:
If our government tried to expel EU citizens, who we have already said can stay here and under what conditions, there would be rebellion and they know it. I would be more concerned for those 1.5M U.K. citizens within the EU, but I’m sure that a deal for them all would be agreed....
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Pete this is a Government that has literally just been caught expelling British citizens.
 
Joey66 said:
My point was the UK is and has always excepted controlled immigration and we do have a big skill shortage the white paper has just been amended , and passed now it's down to the EU to look at it and negotiate it I agreed with you it's been a dogs mess two years to come up with this, but the UK have let the EU dictate the format of the negotiations trade should have been on the agenda very early on as soon as we agreed the divorce bill!
Time is now running out we needed a trade deal well before this to settle the business side to stop uncertainty etc etc
It just never happened no one wants to be PM ATM , that includes Corbyn .......
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And. You said uncontrolled immigration was a problem. I pointed out that controlled immigration was way higher than uncontrolled. Thats all.
 
Methuselah said:
What it will do is bring the member states into the discussion. The elite in Brussels have bust a gut to keep them out. There will be several years of hassle for both us and the EU (with more for the EU) but the impact in the real world, as against the ivory towers in Brussels, will ensure a reasonable deal gets ironed out in the long run.
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Several years of hassle......sounds boss.

Any MP’s who are advocating a no deal waltz off as being little more than a minor inconvenience, are either woefully uninformed as to what the impact would be or are blatantly misleading the populous, take you pick.

If we do end up going down that route (God forbid) then I hope every one of the either completely clueless or lying toe rags are made fully accountable for their advocacy of this lunacy. They obviously won’t be though and the Daily Mail et al will just peddle the lie that the absolute carnage is all down to Johnny Foreigner at the EU, and the dumb populous will probably fall for it as well.
 
roydo said:
And. You said uncontrolled immigration was a problem. I pointed out that controlled immigration was way higher than uncontrolled. Thats all.
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ATM it is in the past it has not been I can agree with that why that is - may just be a cycle of events ?
We will still be close to Europe after Brexit......
 
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