Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Bruce Wayne said:
The thing I find baffling is that Johnson, Gove et al were senior members of the Cameron government, so they'd have been party to that, and you'd think given that they were going to push to leave should have pushed for some plans to be in place should they win. That absolutely no one, even those who thought leaving was a great idea, did any planning as to what leaving might actually entail is staggering.
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The no overall majority has stopped that.....
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Only for none of those who campaigned to leave to step up into the void either. These are the prats we're supposed to be giving back control to.
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So Vince Cable and Tony Blair avid remainers are not prats then?
One imo is a war crinimal and the other sold the post office off too cheaply- double standards Bruce.....
 
Old Blue 2 said:
Don't need meetings, roydo, we are free thinkers, unlike the sheeple who voted Remain.
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Christ, that's why you're continually dancing to the tune of some of the most ruthless capitalists around who want the state to remove the rights and protection afforded to it's citizens.
 
orchard said:
Christ, that's why you're continually dancing to the tune of some of the most ruthless capitalists around who want the state to remove the rights and protection afforded to it's citizens.
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To be fair, the single market is a capitalists dream as globalisation really needs everyone to be playing by the same rules in order to thrive. That's what the EU provides, whilst also making it super easy for labour and ideas to flow. I dare say nothing would make capitalists happier than the whole world to be covered in a single market. You can argue about what the rules should be, but having common rules is a great thing for markets.
 
roydo said:
Free thinkers who call people who dont agree with their thoughts Sheep?

Heard it all now.
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You must have heard the saying that people follow one another like sheep...
Hence the many strikes we had before ballots - in them days in a hostile crowd the strikers put two hands uplol
 
Here's the view of an Italian economist on why the UK is making the correct decision to leave.
It's in Italian obviously, so switch on subtitles.
He makes some very interesting points, especially when it comes to the numbers.

 
Bruce Wayne said:
1. Ok, only mildly patronising.

2. You clearly advocated your support for leaving having given no thought as to the implication of it either.

3. I mean why would you bother to think that through?

4. Actually considering whether what you propose is a good idea, whether it's a feasible idea or what the risks involved in it are is utterly ridiculous in the brain dead world of the leave voter. Always easier to pass the buck and the blame onto other people.

5. Seriously, I cannot fathom why you can't get your head around the concept of a leave campaigner following logic akin to "I think leaving is a good idea because we can improve x,y and z, which I believe we can change effectively in a, b and c ways, which in turn have a x% likelihood of success."

6. Why is that less absurd than "We should leave, just because. Over to you Dave."
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OK, I've numbered your points, and I will respond to them.

1. You get back what you give from me, Bruce. You lay it out first, and I'll respond in like manner. Simple.

2. It is a disgrace for you to suggest that I have given no thought to the implications of leaving the EU. Not least for the fact that you have no idea of my detailed thought processes, notwithstanding all I have posted in this thread over time. You are out of order with this comment.

3. Again, a disgraceful comment to make, all the more so from a Moderator who faces no rebuke for being insulting to another member. A total disgrace of a remark, Bruce, a total disgrace!

4. Again, a totally disgraceful remark in saying 'the brain dead world of the leave voter'. Just who do you think you are, Bruce? Some kind of higher species, who looks down upon, and sneers, at others who don't hold the same opinion as you, it would appear. The last sentence of yours in '3' is one of your many glib, throwaway, remarks meriting no further response.

5. Leave voters/campaigners can get their heads around concepts, and it is disingenuous of you to suggest thay they can't. I have to say your level of logic so far, let's not beat about the bush here, is rubbish and utterly useless! Akin to a smart-arse who has lost the argument. The latter part of your long sentence (again at the risk of repeating myself for the Nth time) has been answered loads of times in this thread already. You really are stooping to puerile, old, comments in a desperate attempt to points-score here.

6. Still trying to fathom out the logical path of '6'. But anyway, it was put to the vote by 'Dave'. And has been pointed out in a recent post, 'Dave' did jack to prepare for the majority vote going other than for Remain. In terms of running the Administration of this country, that is a total abrogation of responsibility and duty by the First Lord of the Treasury.

Of course, you'll reply to this because, like a spoilt child, you always have to have the last word...
 
orchard said:
Christ, that's why you're continually dancing to the tune of some of the most ruthless capitalists around who want the state to remove the rights and protection afforded to it's citizens.
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I don't dance to anyone's tunes - I don't even dance to my own! ;)
 
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