Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

What percentage of our total exports go to the EU?

And in comparison what is the largest percentage of any EUs country’s exports that come to the U.K.?

When you’ve got those numbers come back to me and tell me which country out of the current 28, stands to lose the most due to Brexit.

What new trade deals btw?

I have shown those numbers numerous times in this thread, both in terms of % GDP and actual trade numbers. You can ask what each countries numbers are until the cows come home but the simple fact is that both Germany and France have trade imbalances with the U.K. and the EU as a whole has a massive imbalance. When we leave we will still be the worlds 5th largest economy, we will be the EU’s largest export destination, we will still be Europe’s strongest military power and the largest Financial hub in the world, with political soft power the envy of Europe, while being a permanent member of the UN SC.

In terms of absolute numbers the EU will lose the most, in terms of countries the U.K. France and Germany will suffer. This is not a one way street, we are not Ireland or Malta or some Eastern European country on handouts. Some of you Remainers tend to ridicule your own country, belittling it at every opportunity, while ignoring just what we do have by way of Financial, Commercial, Military and Political power. But hey, what the hell, just decide who’s side you are on.....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Indeed....but the Remainers on here will never understand nor accept. It’s almost like they don’t understand business.....


Hahaha, and yet you willingly accuse Brexit supporters of being racist. It’s not nice is it. What is this ‘unicorn’ thing of which you speak ? What does it mean ? We have voted, we are leaving, it’s going to happen, but still you cannot support your country, you believe that ‘we can change the result, or remain in a single market’ or whatever. At what point in our exit do you come over from the EU to the U.K. I only ask because I don’t believe you ever will. No matter what we do, no matter what success we have, or failure, you will be there, throwing stones and hyperbole at those trying to made it good. Do I believe that Remainers are treacherous, not at the moment, but soon when it’s really time to pick sides that position will change........

Don’t understand business? hahahahaha 80% of the CBI didn’t want Brexit ffs, and there’s a reason for that.
In the last 24 hrs alone, the likes of JohnLewis, Airbus, Mini and Siemens have all warned of both the uncertainty and the realities that the loss of the customs union in particular will bring. Yet you still try and pontificate that if you understand business you’d be pro Brexit, absolute piffle.

‘Throwing stones at those trying to make it good’ what does that even mean? Yet another meaningless soundbite.

My view has nothing to do with supporting my country, this isn’t us vs the Eu ffs, it’s our decision to leave the club. I’m not going to cheerlead for something that I firmly believe - due to the massive expanse of information, research and projections available on the subject - is going to be of absolutely no tangible benefit to this country at all, in fact it’s going to severely economically damage it. The unicorns are what you Brexiteers believe based on absolutely bugger all, are the ‘wins’ that lie around the corner. Trade deals that were going to be so easy to sort, that we’d have them all lined up ready to go at the point we left, where are they? The idea that the world opens up new markets that we somehow couldn’t already sell to....the minute we rid ourselves of the EU.....it’s a complete nonsense and always has been.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I have shown those numbers numerous times in this thread, both in terms of % GDP and actual trade numbers. You can ask what each countries numbers are until the cows come home but the simple fact is that both Germany and France have trade imbalances with the U.K. and the EU as a whole has a massive imbalance. When we leave we will still be the worlds 5th largest economy, we will be the EU’s largest export destination, we will still be Europe’s strongest military power and the largest Financial hub in the world, with political soft power the envy of Europe, while being a permanent member of the UN SC.

In terms of absolute numbers the EU will lose the most, in terms of countries the U.K. France and Germany will suffer. This is not a one way street, we are not Ireland or Malta or some Eastern European country on handouts. Some of you Remainers tend to ridicule your own country, belittling it at every opportunity, while ignoring just what we do have by way of Financial, Commercial, Military and Political power. But hey, what the hell, just decide who’s side you are on.....

Answer the question then, as you obviously know the percentages off pat if you’ve mentioned them numerous times before,

 

[Joey66]

I’ve no idea where you get your information from, but there’s about 20% of the Swedish populous who would currently favour leaving the EU.

Wrong...
20 percent is high in a coalition government and the rise is going up and up over .....
Immigration
Headline - gone from 8 percent to 20 percent in the last month- the far right party is gathering momentum in a coalition government.........
Please Google it and read it please - thank you!

 

[peteblue]

Don’t understand business? hahahahaha 80% of the CBI didn’t want Brexit ffs, and there’s a reason for that.
In the last 24 hrs alone, the likes of JohnLewis, Airbus, Mini and Siemens have all warned of both the uncertainty and the realities that the loss of the customs union in particular will bring. Yet you still try and pontificate that if you understand business you’d be pro Brexit, absolute piffle.

‘Throwing stones at those trying to make it good’ what does that even mean? Yet another meaningless soundbite.

My view has nothing to do with supporting my country, this isn’t us vs the Eu ffs, it’s our decision to leave the club. I’m not going to cheerlead for something that I firmly believe - due to the massive expanse of information, research and projections available on the subject - is going to be of absolutely no tangible benefit to this country at all, in fact it’s going to severely economically damage it. The unicorns are what you Brexiteers believe based on absolutely bugger all, are the ‘wins’ that lie around the corner. Trade deals that were going to be so easy to sort, that we’d have them all lined up ready to go at the point we left, where are they? The idea that the world opens up new markets that we somehow couldn’t already sell to....the minute we rid ourselves of the EU.....it’s a complete nonsense and always has been.

Airbus, Mini, Siemens, all with major German influence. None of whom will leave the U.K. Siemens have been in the U.K. almost as long as they’ve been in Germany. They didn’t move out through two world wars so I expect this little difficulty to pass by as well. The CBI wanted to join the Euro ffs, so not only do you not understand business but nor do you appreciate history......and your massive expanse of information, research and projections are just views put together with a predetermined output, designed to placate or stimulate whatever view was required.....

 

[peteblue]

Answer the question then, as you obviously know the percentages off pat if you’ve mentioned them numerous times before,

Just read the thread....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Wrong...
20 percent is high in a coalition government and the rise is going up and up over .....
Immigration
Headline - gone from 8 percent to 20 percent in the last month- the far right party is gathering momentum in a coalition government.........
Please Google it and read it please - thank you!

You struggle with comprehension at times Joe, either that or you deliberately deflect by going off at a tangent....I was talking about your assertion of them being supposedly eager to leave the EU, they’re not, it only has around 20% support......

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Airbus, Mini, Siemens, all with major German influence. None of whom will leave the U.K. Siemens have been in the U.K. almost as long as they’ve been in Germany. They didn’t move out through two world wars so I expect this little difficulty to pass by as well. The CBI wanted to join the Euro ffs, so not only do you not understand business but nor do you appreciate history......and your massive expanse of information, research and projections are just views put together with a predetermined output, designed to placate or stimulate whatever view was required.....

Hahahahaha, you’re comedy gold man. I note you left John Lewis off that list, and try and bundle the others into a very convenient basket that you think somehow devalues their words on the subject, it’s Ze Germans again, right oh.

Hilarious that you’re trying to now assert that I don’t understand business, and this from the fella who was part of the senior management team who bust a massively successful British business.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Just read the thread....

Scared that the facts don’t suit your argument then, gotcha.

 

[peteblue]

Scared that the facts don’t suit your argument then, gotcha.

It’s all in the thread, just read the thread....

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

How and why would John Lewis, a partnership of all its U.K. employees, that sells stuff on the U.K. high street want to leave the U.K. I thought you were just joking....

Once again, you manage to prove that you are willing to make pronouncements about subjects that you know nothing about.....

They didn’t say they wanted to leave the Uk and I didn’t suggest that’s what they said. Why assume that? They were talking about the supply chain should the customs union be lost, and used the example of how it’d dramatically effect the shelf life of fresh produce. It was at the FT conference yesterday btw.

I didn’t make a pronouncement btw, I thought I stated a simple fact based on what you’ve said previously, if that’s not the case then feel free to correct me and I’ll withdraw the comment. It was in response to your assertion about me btw, which was patronising and inaccurate.

 

[Clint Planet]

Brexiters who’ve spent two years saying ‘you lost, get over it’ still waiting to discover what they’ve won

With a Brexit deal with the EU no closer to being agreed and many promises already broken, Brexiteers who say ‘you lost, get over it’ are still waiting to find out precisely what they’ve won.
As the second anniversary of the Brexit vote passed, the mystery Brexit prize was causing much excitement among patriotic Brits who are delighted they’ve successfully taken back control, despite watching what can best be described as a ‘clusterfuck’ unfold before their very eyes.
“I can’t wait to find out what it is that we’ve won,” enthused Simon Williams of Brexit campaign group A Nation United in Sovereignty (ANUS).
“I am hoping it’s a car or a nice holiday, something big and expensive now we’re not wasting all that money on massive pensions for those corrupt faceless Eurocrats Nigel Farage warned us about.
“Not a boat though, because I haven’t got anywhere to keep it and I can’t swim.”
Others have insisted that they don’t care what the prize is because they’re going to love it regardless because it will have the smell of victory attached to it.
Leave voter Dave Matthews told us, “We won, so I don’t even need to know what we’ve won – it’s obviously going to be brilliant.
“It’s like visiting the fair when it comes to town, that small made-in-China teddy bear that you won after spending a tenner trying to throw hoops over bottles definitely makes you a winner.
“It doesn’t matter that the same toy would have been much cheaper and much less hassle if you’d just gone and bought it directly from the local market – the fact that you won makes it worth every penny you might have wasted ‘winning’ it.
“So call Brexit a shambles, call it an impending catastrof_ck, I don’t care – because I won and you lost so get over it.”

 

[Joey66]

You struggle with comprehension at times Joe, either that or you deliberately deflect by going off at a tangent....I was talking about your assertion of them being supposedly eager to leave the EU, they’re not, it only has around 20% support......

In a tight coalition government that's a big percentage it's surged in the last two weeks......

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

In a tight coalition government that's a big percentage it's surged in the last two weeks......

Good grief, how many times? I wasn’t talking about the far right party’s vote share. I was talking about the Swedish populations view on EU withdrawal, which you stated was pro a Swedish exit - it isn’t. Support for Swedish withdrawal from the EU sits at about 20%.

 

[peteblue]

I saw a comment earlier today which I would love to see answered by our resident Europhiles...

“what can the EU do for us that we can’t do ourselves ?”...... any takers......