Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
I see that the 27 have effectively ruled the U.K. out of the Galileo project, insisting that we will have third country access only, and no commercial opportunities.

While our government have told them we will just build our own, they are of course furiously still trying to retain input for a few reasons. Obviously building our own will cost money, and politically it puts the U.K. outside of any close EU/UK military/security framework. On the plus side, it will cost money, which will be spent in the U.K. and some of which will be deducted from our EU bill because we have already spent over £1Bn on the project. We will also have more control over our defensive capabilities and can work this with the likes of Australia to enable full earth coverage.

This is a key moment for our negotiators and is a win if we have the balls to just do it. Tell the EU as a result of their demands we will withdraw from the programme, deduct the money from the leaving bill, tell the EU we are building our own system, tell the EU they will have no access to U.K. overseas territories for base stations, and instruct our satellite and space manufacturers to cease any technology transfer. If we actually stand up to them on this, we will gain in the further trade talks. If we cave in then......
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The UK space industry is centered around remain voting Guildford. I'm sure the leave voting areas will get some crumbs from the table though. Heck, whilst we're at it, lets engage in an intellectual arms race as the (remain voting) universities eject themselves from H2020 and other collaborative research projects that have enormously benefited the UK just so we can regain control over laws we can't name, to eject people we don't know and to enjoy a future we can't determine.

Meanwhile, the CBI believe the British car industry faces extinction should we get a hard Brexit.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
The UK space industry is centered around remain voting Guildford. I'm sure the leave voting areas will get some crumbs from the table though. Heck, whilst we're at it, lets engage in an intellectual arms race as the (remain voting) universities eject themselves from H2020 and other collaborative research projects that have enormously benefited the UK just so we can regain control over laws we can't name, to eject people we don't know and to enjoy a future we can't determine.

Meanwhile, the CBI believe the British car industry faces extinction should we get a hard Brexit.
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The U.K. space industry is based around Stevenage and Portsmouth and they both voted to leave. It is the EU ejecting the U.K. from Galileo in spite of our financial and intellectual investment. While France is looking to pick up the commercial business, they are shooting themselves in the foot from a security point of view. This will help to harden the U.K. stance in regard to defence, which we had said should not be a negotiating point even though it was in our favour. We are leaving Bruce, it’s done. Now we are just talking about how we leave, and your friends in the EU are making it fairly plain that they do not want us. So be it. The CBI wanted to join the Euro and the British car industry will do just fine.......
 
Ruairi77 said:
What??
Independence created the United States.
The 13 colonies became the United States.
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Don’t be silly. They became colonies no longer under U.K. control. The United States consists of 50 states, including Alaska and Hawaii, taken or bought from native Americans and Mexico.....I note that you ignored the U.K., Russia, Italy, to which I could have added Germany, France, Spain, etc etc.......keep digging if you wish but you will just look silly......
 
edge said:
The original colonies , were in some parts smaller bits of larger states , mostly the eastern coast , the rest didn't rise up.
With USA history of buying bits of land up do you think we could interest them in Scotland and northern Ireland ?
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Oh please. But then again I wouldn’t mind us all joining with them, rather than the EU........
 
No states fought the British. 13 colonies did. They became the US. Texas and Mexico were not involved in the creation of the United States.
You’re messing with me now tho, right?
 
peteblue said:
Don’t be silly. They became colonies no longer under U.K. control. The United States consists of 50 states, including Alaska and Hawaii, taken or bought from native Americans and Mexico.....I note that you ignored the U.K., Russia, Italy, to which I could have added Germany, France, Spain, etc etc.......keep digging if you wish but you will just look silly......
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Wowzers Pete. They signed the Declaration of Independence and created the United States af America. 13 states. You’re confusing creation and expansion. But yea, I look silly.
 
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