good one Joe!
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roydo
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And dont remember the 1950's and want to go back there.
It was that good before we joined the common market we only had to work a 3 day weeklol
They are just the basic figures thought they might stick in your throat.......You wrongly quoted the YouGov stats for the way people voted in the referendum compared to how they voted in the 2015 GE mate. Amongst those stats was a break down of votes by age and educational attainment - which you have decried before and I’ll vault if required
Forget the age votes counted OUT won.......
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Lets all hope it was worth winning eh Joe?
Any SNP MPs at the barlol
It not what it's worth it's the democratic vote of the UK that's the result hiring millionaires to reverse it is disgusting may happen yet.....
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Not like you to completely ignore the actual point and post a meaningless soundbite Joey....
What did you ‘win’ exactly mate? As 2 years on and I’ve yet to see or hear anything that tangibly represents any form of ‘win’ being delivered.
All these bumper new and improved trade deals we were going to have lined up for the minute we officially leave, as they were going to be a complete piece of piss apparently, according to Davis et al. Where are they then? Not heard much....
What else is there on the Brexit win pile?
Foot Long Hot Dog
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lol hiring millionaires to reverse it?
What like the non dom millionaires that delivered it?
Absolute gold lol
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
So you would be ok with the UK being out of the EU, no matter what the state of the UK actually ends up being?
Foot Long Hot Dog
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The hardcore Brexiteers suicide squad.
It reminds of the crucifixion scene in the Life of Brian ffs.
“We’re driving into the abyss, as it’s what we chose, democracy must be upheld, and it’ll be a British abyss God damn it” lol
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Well I was getting perplexed by the constant "you lost, etc etc" responses, so didnt think it was an unreasonable question.
After all, we would be making our own rules and that. Own mess as well mind.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Joking aside, the hardcore who were always going to vote Leave for whatever reason, rational or otherwise, were always going to brave face Brexit whatever the outcome.
Their apparent refusal to contemplate it being the car crash that most of us (and those pesky experts) believe it will be, is either based on pure hope or complete belligerence , as it sure as Hell isnt based on actual facts. They don’t seem to do facts.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Trouble is, on either side of the debate, there are few actual facts.
I personally get worn down by the absence of reasoned debate that goes beyond the "You lost" "Youngsters know nothing" sort of tripe that comes back.
But one fact that is undeniable is that we have have decided to leave a massive free trade body, with seemingly, no coherent plan what we are actually going to do now.
Still, make our own rules I guess.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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For me it was always about the single market and the customs union. By removing ourselves from both we’re alienating our closest 27 markets. It’s going to complicate trade, that is an absolute fact, and for me the potential loss of the customs union is arguably the biggest blow. We rely on Just in time deliveries to our largely foreign owned manufacturing plants, customs delays will have a dramatic effect on the flow of components and finished product both ways. This, combined with most of our manufacturing plants being used for supply of product into the European Union and so therefore potentially facing tariffs as well, makes this country a far less appealing prospect for the kind of foreign owned manufacturing companies that have set up base here since the days of Thatcher.
We’re already seeing less investment and companies drawing up strategies that will cover them in the event of a car crash exit. It’ll be economically damaging, there is no counter argument to that, that holds up to any scrutiny, even the main Brexit protagonists now admit it.
Their premise is now ‘jam tomorrow’ but I personally think that’s delusional nonsense. These supposed new exciting markets they we’re going to ‘discover’ (haven’t they always been there?) that are somehow going to replace the lost EU trade, sorry but it’s pure delusion imho.
They never make mention that trade deals are a 2 way street, and these days invariably bring with them increased mobility of people, which is what we’re seemingly so eager to reduce to a trickle. They never mention the fact that we could be overrun with cheap inferior quality products and produce from these new markets, that could undermine our own industry do they?
I asked earlier what’s on the Brexit win pile so far and haven’t yet had a response. Aside from French produced Blue passports, that we could have had anyway, I’ve no idea what’s on that list.......
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