Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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That's why Italy & France want out - the EU are doing the best to keep us in......

think it's the Brexiters themselves making the strongest case for keeping us in just now...

not so sure about this whole BBC documentary business either... seems like a slippery slope from there to searching for things on Google!
 
The USA has a perfectly valid point over trade with the EU and especially Germany. It is similar with the U.K. and the EU and Germany. There are trade imbalances. The one that really seems to grate with Trump is the sale of German cars which attract something like 2.5% import duty in the USA but American cars attract about 10% in the EU, and of course he’s still hacked off that Germany does not pay its way with the NATO alliance but expects the USA to protect it.

The EU is a protectionist racket with Germany and its economy at its heart. The EU likes to play the bully and it will be interesting to see how this plays out......
 
think it's the Brexiters themselves making the strongest case for keeping us in just now...

not so sure about this whole BBC documentary business either... seems like a slippery slope from there to searching for things on Google!

Joe will skip a generation and go straight to Alexa or Siri, but he'll get the Microsoft one that turned racist overnight.
 
It formed what did the UK public have any input?
No treaties were signed with the UK public voting on them - then we had a referendum OUT won by 1.5 million votes it was not as close as remoners make out only the rich want to stay in it!
THE EU - evolved when did they last audit their books........

What are you on about?

I am pretty sure your country voted in a referendum in 75 to stay in two years after you joined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975

google it .... oh wait ... that's right you don't do daft things like that.

It passed by 67% of the vote so yes the people got the choice and stayed back then.

Do you even know your history? Especially that of the EU or were you simply led by fear and propaganda.

I am going to say the later see as you are concerned about coffee machine expenses.
 
What are you on about?

I am pretty sure your country voted in a referendum in 75 to stay in two years after you joined.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_European_Communities_membership_referendum,_1975

google it .... oh wait ... that's right you don't do daft things like that.

It passed by 67% of the vote so yes the people got the choice and stayed back then.

Do you even know your history? Especially that of the EU or were you simply led by fear and propaganda.

I am going to say the later see as you are concerned about coffee machine expenses.

Mate, I love @Joey66 , he is great. But trying to argue with him on the EU is akin to having a gun debate with the NRA.
 
The USA has a perfectly valid point over trade with the EU and especially Germany. It is similar with the U.K. and the EU and Germany. There are trade imbalances. The one that really seems to grate with Trump is the sale of German cars which attract something like 2.5% import duty in the USA but American cars attract about 10% in the EU, and of course he’s still hacked off that Germany does not pay its way with the NATO alliance but expects the USA to protect it.

The EU is a protectionist racket with Germany and its economy at its heart. The EU likes to play the bully and it will be interesting to see how this plays out......

Although i see your point.

Thing is German cars will always sell in the US even if they raise the duty.

American cars won't sell in Europe. They are generally inferior to European made cars and the imported Asian cars to Europe. They have traditionally done a lot poorer. I bet it has nothing to do with duty either. I think there are probably only a few american made cars that would sell at all and they would be trucks and sports cars like the F150 truck and the mustang.

I bet if they increased the duty to 10% on German cars they would still sell here.

If they dropped the duty on American made cars to 2%, they would probably still struggle.
 
Not sure if that was directed at me seen as you quoted yourself.

I did not say the EEC was not the EU. They are one in the same. The EEC was renamed to the EU. I looked over what i typed and its not something i said. Especially not my first sentence.

For the record this was my first sentence:
Explain to me how it "formed itself"?

4m on coffee machines for an organisation that large is probably normal i am guessing. Sounds expensive i'll admit, but they probably have high capacity machines too, which have service contracts i'd imagine.

So they like coffee who cares? Incidentally the average Briton spends up 2000 a year on coffee if not more. It's the same here in the US and probably the same in Europe too.

They have an office budget like every other company and organisation and chose to spend it on that. Maybe to make their people happy and comfortable and not waste time standing in line. They also conduct many meetings so its probably necessary.

Who knows their reasons? Unless the show explained it and how they came to that decision of course.

The EEC is not the EU. They are totally different animals. They consisted of different countries and with different aims. One was an Economic community, the clue was in the name, the second is a political union, again the clue is in the name. We voted to remain in the former and we voted to leave the latter.....
 
The USA has a perfectly valid point over trade with the EU and especially Germany. It is similar with the U.K. and the EU and Germany. There are trade imbalances. The one that really seems to grate with Trump is the sale of German cars which attract something like 2.5% import duty in the USA but American cars attract about 10% in the EU, and of course he’s still hacked off that Germany does not pay its way with the NATO alliance but expects the USA to protect it.

The EU is a protectionist racket with Germany and its economy at its heart. The EU likes to play the bully and it will be interesting to see how this plays out......

Out of interest Pete, what would the TTIP deal that Trump scrapped have done to those tariffs?
 
I know the ownership/domicile of car makers is complicated, but arnt Ford Merican based. Still?

Yes technically but the cars they make for the European market are made in Europe and not imported.

They sell different models in Europe than they do in the US.
 
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