Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

Similar to scottish independence argument then?

Indeed, except that Scotland voted to remain in the U.K. and doesn’t have to send £Billions to the U.K. government for the pleasure.....

 

[peteblue]

Ha, we get that it's all about you pete x

No, it’s about us all within the U.K......

 

[dead_soft]

Indeed, and that’s why we need to leave, so that the U.K. can vote in or vote out the political leader, which we cannot do within the EU.......

Where do you draw a line at localised power? Is it the nation state? Or do you agree regions should take back power?

 

[orchard]

Indeed, except that Scotland voted to remain in the U.K. and doesn’t have to send £Billions to the U.K. government for the pleasure.....

So vat, duty and other taxes will stay in scotland?

 

[peteblue]

Where do you draw a line at localised power? Is it the nation state? Or do you agree regions should take back power?

I would like to see power passed back to local areas, with the exception of Foreign Relations, Military etc......

 

[peteblue]

So vat, duty and other taxes will stay in scotland?

Why not...and all English taxes can stay in England, etc...although I would not expect Scotland to be happy about that......

 

[dead_soft]

I would like to see power passed back to local areas, with the exception of Foreign Relations, Military etc......

Why not foreign relations or military?

 

[peteblue]

Why not foreign relations or military?

It all depends on what is a sensible point of enactment......the nation state is probably the most suitable point.....

 

[orchard]

Why not...and all English taxes can stay in England, etc...although I would not expect Scotland to be happy about that......

You've no idea how happy they would be, however, it's good to know you don't support the government's attempted hubris over a cta.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

And what is your point, that the date is the end of 2020/ beginning of 2021.....I voted Leave and I’m happy with that. You seem to be unhappy about the dates yet voted Remain......I’m also happy with the £40Bn etc.....

That Brexit keeps on being wartered down, its very much like a homeopathic remedy!

 

[neil999]

Indeed, except that Scotland voted to remain in the U.K. and doesn’t have to send £Billions to the U.K. government for the pleasure.....

I forgot about that pesky referendum....

 

[tsubaki]

Not exactly. The European Council nominate the person, even though we objected, then the parliament vote to confirm......

So you are less wrong than tsubaki but far less correct than myself.......

Isn’t it interesting that a country of half a million people have now produced the most EU presidents.....

Nope - that is how it used to work. The 2014 election (Junckers) took part under the Spitzenkandidat process, which was implemented as I said - Juncker's group got the most votes, so he was nominated.

 

[peteblue]

Nope - that is how it used to work. The 2014 election (Junckers) took part under the Spitzenkandidat process, which was implemented as I said - Juncker's group got the most votes, so he was nominated.

Indeed, but as I understand it, perhaps incorrectly, is that the European Council then have to nominate him by majority vote before the ratification vote in the parliament.....this is the battle currently going on between the EC and the EP....

 

[tsubaki]

Indeed, but as I understand it, perhaps incorrectly, is that the European Council then have to nominate him by majority vote before the ratification vote in the parliament.....this is the battle currently going on between the EC and the EP....

The EC are not happy about it, but the boat has long since sailed on that one and they will have to accept whatever the EP come up with - any attempt to block it and they will probably talk themselves out of existence (or at least will the moment that a grouping emerges with 51% of the MEPs).

 

[peteblue]

The EC are not happy about it, but the boat has long since sailed on that one and they will have to accept whatever the EP come up with - any attempt to block it and they will probably talk themselves out of existence (or at least will the moment that a grouping emerges with 51% of the MEPs).

The problem of course is that the previous method is actually contained within the treaties....