Current Affairs EU In or Out

[orly]

Point to where I was claiming it as my own. On the other hand you have an identification photo that was clearly stolen from some hard working virgin just trying to make a living in fantasy. You should post the source as soon as possible

lol

Easier than Damo this one was

 

[Seanjd]

Scotland have every right to go for another referendum. Things have changed massively since the last one, which was very close, and they are totally unrepresented now. They could be independent and in the EU. I hope they do it.

 

[everton2004]

Deemed eligible by the Scottish.

They set their own terms of their own referendum.

And 15% of the Scottish electorate couldn't be bothered putting a cross in a box on a piece of paper. Incredible really that people can't be bothered getting involved in big decisions like this. Even worse for the Brexit referendum - 72% nationally! And I bet a lot of those who couldn't be bothered are now complaining about the result. You can give the people democracy but you can't force them to engage with it so it seems.

 

[Toast]

Cameron put this into his manifesto as a short term way of gaining votes. He didn't think at the time we would actually leave, the idiot.

Surely he will be viewed as one of the most dreadful prime ministers ever?

I hope he is sat down with family and friends, a bit bevvied, continually asking " how did that happen? "
His mrs will eventually crack and lose her rag and give him loads of grief for " ruining everything ".

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

When swathes of people are told on a daily basis that immigrants are bad for years on end, that's going to have an effect. They couldn't compete with the immigration argument, because as unfounded as it is, it is now engrained. Depressing.

Yep, all became about economics v immigration.

 

[deipnosophist]

My cousin was one of the european bosses of AIG (Who, incidentally, Max Keiser holds responsible for the crash) when the financial crisis of 2008 happened. He's now the 'strategic accounts director' (Fancy title for a gambler, eh?) of another world-leading insurance company, and has an office on the 2nd top floor of the 'citilink' building at canary wharf.

So kindly don't tell me I don't know what I'm on about. I've heard him brag about his bonuses and how much tax he paid on them (In fairness, he pays his full whack) He's well aware that he's making his moolah off the back of the ordinary working joe by immoral means, and letting the likes of me get slated by the right-wing media. And yet, he maintains the status quo; seeing nothing wrong with what he's doing/done.

Fact is he's part of the clique. He's guilty as sin; and so are those who act under his instructions. Ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. If you're doing something that you KNOW is wrong but do nothing about it, you're complicit. No if's, or buts.

We've ALL suffered because of their avarice and swindling; it's time for payback. Let's see the bankers & city 'gents' having to go on work programmes and perform mundane tasks like building an eiffel tower out of straws 'to encourage teambuilding'

Let's see them jump through hoops to claim their pittance per week that the tories say is 'largesse' or generosity. Let's see them demonized every other hour on poverty porn shows incessantly repeated on Channel 5...They've been happy enough to see others go through it.

At least Iceland had the balls to jail their fraudsters. Rather than crib about them going elsewhere, you should crib about them not going to jail.

I engaged in major discussions with the CEO of the NZ Rugby Football Union over having AIG as a major sponsor of the All Blacks. That company should have burn't in hell after the GFC...lucky for them the US taxpayer bailed them out to the tune of around 100 billion.

 

[RFUS]

When swathes of people are told on a daily basis that immigrants are bad for years on end, that's going to have an effect. They couldn't compete with the immigration argument, because as unfounded as it is, it is now engrained. Depressing.

All the immigrants I know have a great work ethic whereas all the lazy, layabout messes I know are all 100% British.

Hardly a great basis for statistical evaluation but my experiences at least make me find the xenophobia a bit unfounded.

 

[toffee matt]

Area's with the strongest concerns about immigration and the largest UKIP vote are actually areas with Low Immigration

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...-strongest-Where-there-are-no-immigrants.html

 

[Seanjd]

And 15% of the Scottish electorate couldn't be bothered putting a cross in a box on a piece of paper. Incredible really that people can't be bothered getting involved in big decisions like this. Even worse for the Brexit referendum - 72% nationally! And I bet a lot of those who couldn't be bothered are now complaining about the result. You can give the people democracy but you can't force them to engage with it so it seems.

Yes, but 85% did. That's a high turnout. It's never going to be 100%.

 

[deipnosophist]

My posts never will be.

I blame the migrants for my lack of education, what I mean is, we never had enough of them as teachers!

pffft!

 

[ToffeeDoug]

A large number of people voted yesterday who have long since not bothered in general elections. Partly because they were not apathetic on the subject of Europe and partly because their vote mattered, it really was an equal vote, the same worth as any vote anywhere else in the country. In normal elections some voters simply don't bother anymore if they want to vote for a party that simply has no chance in a particular constituency. A referendum is so different.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Yes, but 85% did. That's a high turnout. It's never going to be 100%.

Off the top of my head, the general election last year was 67%. 1 in 3 voters didn't vote, 15m eligible voters happy not to bother.

 

[deipnosophist]

I am feeling a little deflated right now.

A page or so back, I posted about a trip I made to an Indian supermarket.

I am saddened that @orly did not 'like' my post.

 

[Seanjd]

Off the top of my head, the general election last year was 67%. 1 in 3 voters didn't vote, 15m eligible voters happy not to bother.

I don't understand your point.

 

[everton2004]

Off the top of my head, the general election last year was 67%. 1 in 3 voters didn't vote, 15m eligible voters happy not to bother.

There's a lesson that they have to take from this - British Politics is broken. They need to sort it out and reconnect with the electorate. It's sad that it took a referendum before they realised it but the message is now clear. Sort it out.