Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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edge said:
They are members of the WTO can't see them getting away with it to be honest Bruce, we could easily counter due to them putting money into Boeing via the defence budget.
Same result if we are in or out of the EU, we go to the WTO or do a deal that suits both parties.
I know we are on different sides on this subject( brexit)Bruce but it's turning into a shambles,they should stop posturing on both sides and get down to getting a decent workable deal between the UK and the EU.
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For sure, I don't expect them to get away with it either, but the point is that many on the leave side appeared to be happy to throw away single market access because we could then 'easily' replace what we had with something much better with 'the rest of the world'. The example of America suggests that won't be easy whatsoever.

The silly thing is (imo) that I'm increasingly of the opinion that the best deal will be as close as possible to what we have. We already have the power to restrict welfare to new migrants. We already have the power to extradite them if they don't find work. We already have the power to support communities that have population changes. All of those things existed before the vote even took place, but I don't think either side did a very good job of actually explaining that.

I just hope pride doesn't come before a fall, but I'm not at all convinced.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
For sure, I don't expect them to get away with it either, but the point is that many on the leave side appeared to be happy to throw away single market access because we could then 'easily' replace what we had with something much better with 'the rest of the world'. The example of America suggests that won't be easy whatsoever.

The silly thing is (imo) that I'm increasingly of the opinion that the best deal will be as close as possible to what we have. We already have the power to restrict welfare to new migrants. We already have the power to extradite them if they don't find work. We already have the power to support communities that have population changes. All of those things existed before the vote even took place, but I don't think either side did a very good job of actually explaining that.

I just hope pride doesn't come before a fall, but I'm not at all convinced.
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Just hope common sense, comes into play, as you say neither side is covering itself in glory at the moment,
think it will end up with either a deal that will see us neither fully in or out that will suit nobody or hard Brexit , if the UK doesn't get something coming its way, over trade ect, not that I am hopeful after the way they sent Cameron packing with next to nothing. that started all this if he had been given a few scraps it would have been a walk over in the vote.
As you say if you look at the actual EU rules on employing foreign workers, there was already a lot of things in place to avert peoples worries, the UK government's chose to ignore them, although things like the postal directive don't help the EU on that score it wasn't all one way.
As we get towards the leave date I suspect, we will see a lot of panicking to get a deal in place as reality bites home here and around the continent , maybe not in Brussels as they are in a bubble , but around the rest of Europe.
Events in Europe in the coming months might see a more pragmatic view coming into play, as things like,the central banks wish to end printing money, it will have to for various reasons shortly.
France is going to be interesting in the near future as he tries to change the labour rules, Italy's banking crisis isn't going away etc.. will put pressure on to get a deal done from governments around Europe
Not hopeful at all with either side at the moment doing anything remotely to actually make it move along.
 
Telegraph

Chelsea fans are the supporters most likely to have voted Leave in the EU referendum, according to the results of a new study that surveyed followers of Premier League clubs.

Almost two-thirds of Chelsea fans, 62%, supported the campaign to withdraw Britain from the European Union, with 57% of Tottenham and Everton fans also Leavers.

Of the Chelsea fans who voted Leave, 52% named immigration as the main reason why they were persuaded to vote in favour. Spurs fans are the Premier League's most indecisive - with 59% of those surveyed regretting their original voting decision.

Brighton and Hove Albion, home of Britain's first constituency to return a Green MP, was the Premier League fanbase with the most ardent Remain supporters - with a convincing 81% voting to stay in Europe.

Arsenal and Liverpool are also home to Remain majorities, as well as Manchester United and perhaps more surpisingly, Stoke City and Burnley.

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Brighton had the highest number of Remain voters Credit: Getty Images
One intriguing trend was a Merseyside divide on the issue, with Everton and Liverpool fans differing wildly despite their geographical proximity.

Online football site, AskFans, carried out the study in a bid to gain further insight into how the demographic of football fans changes from team to team. For the purposes of the study, 4,680 UK-based adults aged 18 or over were quizzed.

All participants were supporters of one of the 20 teams in the Premier League and were spread evenly across each team.

Initially all participants were asked ‘Did you vote to leave or remain in the EU on the 23rd of June 2016?’

The results in full
  1. Chelsea – 61% voted leave, 39% voted remain
  2. Everton – 57% voted leave, 43% voted remain
  3. Tottenham – 57% voted leave, 43% voted remain
  4. West Brom– 56% voted leave, 44% voted remain
  5. Newcastle – 52% voted leave, 48% voted remain
  6. Huddersfield – 52% voted leave, 48% voted remain
  7. Man City – 50% voted leave, 50% voted remain
  8. Crystal Palace – 46% voted leave, 54% voted remain
  9. Swansea City – 42% voted leave, 58% voted remain
  10. Stoke City – 40% voted leave, 60% voted remain
  11. Man United – 38% voted leave, 62% voted remain
  12. Burnley – 37% voted leave, 63% voted remain
  13. West Ham – 37% voted leave, 63% voted remain
  14. Watford – 34% voted leave, 66% voted remain
  15. Arsenal – 34% voted leave, 66% voted remain
  16. Southampton – 31% voted leave, 69% voted remain
  17. Leicester – 29% voted leave, 71% voted remain
  18. Bournemouth – 27% voted leave, 73% voted remain
  19. Liverpool – 23% voted leave, 77% voted remain
  20. Brighton – 19% voted leave, 81% voted remain
 
hullefc said:
Trump has decided to up trade war against rivals and penalised Bombardier for Canadian and UK state aid to them. Now Fallon is threatening Boeing with defence contracts. The UK will find it increasingly difficult to get a trade agreement with the US as Trump puts 'America first'. and to do that has to drive rivals out of markets. It wont be long before Boeing focuses on Rolls Royce and how they conduct their trade business.

This is the worse possible news for the Tories as they have played politics with leaving the EU. The road ahead will be very bumpy as trade war rhetoric and actions is stepped up in the world.
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But,but,we were promised a brave new world of trade with everyone!
 
Armel said:
Telegraph

Chelsea fans are the supporters most likely to have voted Leave in the EU referendum, according to the results of a new study that surveyed followers of Premier League clubs.

Almost two-thirds of Chelsea fans, 62%, supported the campaign to withdraw Britain from the European Union, with 57% of Tottenham and Everton fans also Leavers.

Of the Chelsea fans who voted Leave, 52% named immigration as the main reason why they were persuaded to vote in favour. Spurs fans are the Premier League's most indecisive - with 59% of those surveyed regretting their original voting decision.

Brighton and Hove Albion, home of Britain's first constituency to return a Green MP, was the Premier League fanbase with the most ardent Remain supporters - with a convincing 81% voting to stay in Europe.

Arsenal and Liverpool are also home to Remain majorities, as well as Manchester United and perhaps more surpisingly, Stoke City and Burnley.

TELEMMGLPICT000141700286_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqT1yghX8zbx7fxQBY89c64XuNz4jGHGsSQrNbcoF3ur4.jpeg

Brighton had the highest number of Remain voters Credit: Getty Images
One intriguing trend was a Merseyside divide on the issue, with Everton and Liverpool fans differing wildly despite their geographical proximity.

Online football site, AskFans, carried out the study in a bid to gain further insight into how the demographic of football fans changes from team to team. For the purposes of the study, 4,680 UK-based adults aged 18 or over were quizzed.

All participants were supporters of one of the 20 teams in the Premier League and were spread evenly across each team.

Initially all participants were asked ‘Did you vote to leave or remain in the EU on the 23rd of June 2016?’

The results in full
  1. Chelsea – 61% voted leave, 39% voted remain
  2. Everton – 57% voted leave, 43% voted remain
  3. Tottenham – 57% voted leave, 43% voted remain
  4. West Brom– 56% voted leave, 44% voted remain
  5. Newcastle – 52% voted leave, 48% voted remain
  6. Huddersfield – 52% voted leave, 48% voted remain
  7. Man City – 50% voted leave, 50% voted remain
  8. Crystal Palace – 46% voted leave, 54% voted remain
  9. Swansea City – 42% voted leave, 58% voted remain
  10. Stoke City – 40% voted leave, 60% voted remain
  11. Man United – 38% voted leave, 62% voted remain
  12. Burnley – 37% voted leave, 63% voted remain
  13. West Ham – 37% voted leave, 63% voted remain
  14. Watford – 34% voted leave, 66% voted remain
  15. Arsenal – 34% voted leave, 66% voted remain
  16. Southampton – 31% voted leave, 69% voted remain
  17. Leicester – 29% voted leave, 71% voted remain
  18. Bournemouth – 27% voted leave, 73% voted remain
  19. Liverpool – 23% voted leave, 77% voted remain
  20. Brighton – 19% voted leave, 81% voted remain
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I thought Norway wasn't in the EU?
 
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