Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

Most low paid, seasonal jobs like strawberry picking is done by migrant workers. If we cannot get those jobs done by UK workers, seasonal visas it is then. Don't see a problem with that at all.

And as for skilled workers, well they can get a visa for their job as well. It's so simple.

No, I'm sorry, but that doesn't wash. The leave campaign was based upon pledges to massively reduce migration levels. It wasn't a pledge to keep levels exactly as they are, but just add a huge layer of bureaucracy on top of it all to give the visage of control.

As Joey has said repeatedly, services are apparently at breaking point. Not services in our biggest cities mind you, because despite having far and away the most migrants, they by and large all voted to remain, so appear quite happy with services levels in places with high levels of migration. It must be the service levels in the small towns with barely any migrants what done it. Never mind that successive governments have largely ignored these small towns for generations. I'm sure that's got nothing to do with service levels.

 

[Old Blue 2]

The leave campaign was based upon pledges to massively reduce migration levels.

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...


See what I did there? Same as you have done for months, Bruce!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...

Not it wasn't, Bruce. You repeat that ad infinitum to shore up your singular point...


See what I did there? Same as you have done for months, Bruce!

Immigration was the very first 'policy' the leave campaign penned. Both the Conservatives and UKIP had pledged to reduce it to tens of thousands, which is at the least 30% of currently levels, and therefore a significant cut.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...and-gove-pledge-tough-new-immigration-system/

 

[Old Blue 2]

Immigration was the very first 'policy' the leave campaign penned. Both the Conservatives and UKIP had pledged to reduce it to tens of thousands, which is at the least 30% of currently levels, and therefore a significant cut.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...and-gove-pledge-tough-new-immigration-system/

And as you and I have discussed previously, Bruce, it was only one issue in a whole raft of issues that led the likes of me and millions of others to vote Leave...

 

[The Cowboy]

No, I'm sorry, but that doesn't wash. The leave campaign was based upon pledges to massively reduce migration levels. It wasn't a pledge to keep levels exactly as they are, but just add a huge layer of bureaucracy on top of it all to give the visage of control.

As Joey has said repeatedly, services are apparently at breaking point. Not services in our biggest cities mind you, because despite having far and away the most migrants, they by and large all voted to remain, so appear quite happy with services levels in places with high levels of migration. It must be the service levels in the small towns with barely any migrants what done it. Never mind that successive governments have largely ignored these small towns for generations. I'm sure that's got nothing to do with service levels.

Allocating visas according to demand / job availability will curtail immigration.

 

[Joey66]

No, I'm sorry, but that doesn't wash. The leave campaign was based upon pledges to massively reduce migration levels. It wasn't a pledge to keep levels exactly as they are, but just add a huge layer of bureaucracy on top of it all to give the visage of control.

As Joey has said repeatedly, services are apparently at breaking point. Not services in our biggest cities mind you, because despite having far and away the most migrants, they by and large all voted to remain, so appear quite happy with services levels in places with high levels of migration. It must be the service levels in the small towns with barely any migrants what done it. Never mind that successive governments have largely ignored these small towns for generations. I'm sure that's got nothing to do with service levels.

At breaking point yes , but as long as it is not on your doorstep Bruce what's the saying - I'm all right Jack!
It does not affect me , but I feel for the local residents where the biggest influxes take place, the strain on the services as reported or even on QT when it is in Boston Lincolnshire etc
I synphaphise with there plight as in a low migration area the NHS is crumbling!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

At breaking point yes , but as long as it is not on your doorstep Bruce what's the saying - I'm all right Jack!
It does not affect me , but I feel for the local residents where the biggest influxes take place, the strain on the services as reported or even on QT when it is in Boston Lincolnshire etc
I synphaphise with there plight as in a low migration area the NHS is crumbling!

I live in Southwark Joey, which is not only one of the most densely populated parts of the country, but also one of the most diverse, with 34% of its residents non-UK nationals (as of the last census in 2011). That compares to figures of around 4% for Lincolnshire. So yeah, I've got no exposure whatsoever to either huge population numbers or high numbers of migrants. What's more, of those migrants, roughly 1/4 are from the EU, the rest from everywhere else in the world.

 

[Joey66]

I live in Southwark Joey, which is not only one of the most densely populated parts of the country, but also one of the most diverse, with 34% of its residents non-UK nationals (as of the last census in 2011). That compares to figures of around 4% for Lincolnshire. So yeah, I've got no exposure whatsoever to either huge population numbers or high numbers of migrants. What's more, of those migrants, roughly 1/4 are from the EU, the rest from everywhere else in the world.

So controlled migration is not a problem for you then when we leave the EU?
Just googled Southwark Bruce a thriving affluent area of outer London?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

So controlled migration is not a problem for you then when we leave the EU?
Just googled Southwark Bruce a thriving affluent area of outer London?

Like I said, we've got 100,000 or so non-UK nationals living in a borough of ~250,000 people, of which 75,000 are from outside the EU. So it's already 'controlled' in the sense that 75,000 of the residents here were allowed to live in the UK by the government.

As for the rest, the northern boundary of the borough is the Thames, so certainly not outer London, and it is 41st out of 326 local authorities in terms of poverty levels.

 

[Joey66]

Like I said, we've got 100,000 or so non-UK nationals living in a borough of ~250,000 people, of which 75,000 are from outside the EU. So it's already 'controlled' in the sense that 75,000 of the residents here were allowed to live in the UK by the government.

As for the rest, the northern boundary of the borough is the Thames, so certainly not outer London, and it is 41st out of 326 local authorities in terms of poverty levels.

285 times a better area to live in then Bruce! Not bad hey ho

 

[Bruce Wayne]

285 times a better area to live in then Bruce! Not bad hey ho

I think 1st = the most deprived area Joey

If you compare the regions that are most deprived in the country, with the number of migrants living there, it's pretty clear that migration is not the problem for them, but they've been hoodwinked by politicians who certainly don't want you to look at the real cause of neglect in these regions, not least of all in Westminster itself.

 

[Joey66]

I think 1st = the most deprived area Joey

If you compare the regions that are most deprived in the country, with the number of migrants living there, it's pretty clear that migration is not the problem for them, but they've been hoodwinked by politicians who certainly don't want you to look at the real cause of neglect in these regions, not least of all in Westminster itself.

You always quote stats Bruce , forgetting the main stat 52 v 48 percent voted l
To leave the EU
The 3 month debate is over We will negotate, and leave under terms that suit us it's not all about immigration we will have freedom and trade worldwide without the EU polictical union dictating to us!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You always quote stats Bruce , forgetting the main stat 52 v 48 percent voted l
To leave the EU
The 3 month debate is over We will negotate, and leave under terms that suit us it's not all about immigration we will have freedom and trade worldwide without the EU polictical union dictating to us!

Usually to your own requests for them!

 

[Joey66]

Usually to your own requests for them! lol

You big googler youlol

 

[Bruce Wayne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034

• "The data confirms previous indications that local results were strongly associated with the educational attainment of voters - populations with lower qualifications were significantly more likely to vote Leave.

• The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census

Bit more Googling required perhaps?