Current Affairs EU In or Out

[peteblue]

No Bruce, you are fixated on cities, cities, cities, and put it forward continually as the be-all-and-end-all to your arguments (yes arguments) concerning the reason to stay in the EU.

Pathetic Bruce. There is life in every country outside of cities!

And I stand by my comment that your constant mantra of 'cities' is now utterly boring...

Oh, and give me your statistics and sources of information to back up fully the contention you have made regarding migrants. You're just spouting your own propaganda once again, with no foundation in fact.

I think the big issue that Bruce cannot get his head around is that if all the UK cities tomorrow disappeared, we would just carry on, sort out bank funding and then continue.....if the rest of the country disappeared, the cities would quickly fall to bits, have nothing to eat and would probably start fighting each other......

 

[Joey66]

I note you've failed to address my point.

I don't stoop that low I just put the net migration figures up net 330,00 and seemed to be dragged into a war of words I do not behave like that ok!

 

[Clint Planet]

No Bruce, you are fixated on cities, cities, cities, and put it forward continually as the be-all-and-end-all to your arguments (yes arguments) concerning the reason to stay in the EU.

Pathetic Bruce. There is life in every country outside of cities!

And I stand by my comment that your constant mantra of 'cities' is now utterly boring...

Oh, and give me your statistics and sources of information to back up fully the contention you have made regarding migrants. You're just spouting your own propaganda once again, with no foundation in fact.

Sorry, but this is utter bilge. Unless I'm wrong, his point is, immigration was the number one reason for voting Leave and yet the areas with the most visible immigration voted Remain. Essentially, the "fear" of being swamped by immigrants was felt much more by those who hardly experienced it than those who did. That would tend to suggest it is a largely unfounded fear.

My street is probably 50% non-English speaking, mate. I actually like it. It isn't a bad thing in itself. What is a bad thing is successive governments allowing the housing crisis to escalate at the expense of every ordinary working person, UK on non-UK. And by the way, don't think opportunist posh-boys like Farage are your mate. They're just using you.

 

[Clint Planet]

I don't stoop that low

You don't stoop low enough to address a reasonable point? Is this really where we're at....?

Sad.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Sorry, but this is utter bilge. Unless I'm wrong, his point is, immigration was the number one reason for voting Leave and yet the areas with the most visible immigration voted Remain. Essentially, the "fear" of being swamped by immigrants was felt much more by those who hardly experienced it than those who did. That would tend to suggest it is a largely unfounded fear.

My street is probably 50% non-English speaking, mate. I actually like it. It isn't a bad thing in itself. What is a bad thing is successive governments allowing the housing crisis to escalate at the expense of every ordinary working person, UK on non-UK. And by the way, don't think opportunist posh-boys like Farage are your mate. They're just using you.

Is current kind of immigration a problem?

 

[orchard]

You new to this lark like?

You don't stoop low enough to address a reasonable point? Is this really where we're at....?

Sad.

 

[Clint Planet]

Is current like immigration a problem?

Yer what, lad?

 

[Clint Planet]

You new to this lark like?

*slaps forehead*

 

[TheFinnFan]

Yer what, lad?

Simple question

 

[orchard]

*slaps forehead*

Hahaha, is that a mating ritual?

 

[orchard]

Simple question

Syntax error mate

 

[Clint Planet]

Simple question

Apparently not. Could you possible reword it for me, old boy?

 

[TheFinnFan]

Apparently not. Could you possible reword it for me, old boy?

Edited my simple question a bit, maybe now you can answer me.

 

[Joey66]

You don't stoop low enough to address a reasonable point? Is this really where we're at....?

Sad.

It's sad that you fetch the debate down to gutter level hence me sensibly not stooping as low as you are trying to make me if that's what you mean that's why I backed down ok!

 

[Clint Planet]

Edited my simple question a bit, maybe now you can answer me.

Nope, I honestly am not sure what you're trying to ask but I'll guess that it is something along the lines of "Do you think immigration is a problem?" - forgive me if I'm wrong.

Hopefully, my feelings about this have already been fairly evident. As I said, I live on a street that is maybe 50% immigrant - almost certainly more than FinnFan or any Northern/rural board members experience, and yet it doesn't bother me at all. So, no, in that very real sense it is not a problem.

What is a problem is the way the moneyed elite in a post-Thatcher era are feathering their beds with easy money by buying second, third, fourth, fifth homes and accruing ever-greater yields from them as the housing crisis grows - all at the expense of the common man. It's also a problem the way they then fan the flames of racial hatred in a cynical game of divide-and-rule to deflect attention from their shameful practices.

Put simply:

1. It is well within our capability to build sufficient social housing for all (even if we have a rapidly expanding economy on the back of EU net immigration) but those that own the current capital don't want that.

2. Those owners deliberately provoke scapegoat politics in order to continue their ruse.

3. The cold hard facts are that those people who live in contact with a higher percentage of immigrants tended to vote remain; those who merely worry about what UKIP fearmonger (without coming into contact with that many immigrants) tended to vote Leave.