Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Old Blue 2]

As I said, migrants will go where the jobs are - if they are in cities (which they tend to be because of their size) they will go there. If they are in places like Boston they will go there. So asking "is this typical" isn't really relevant in relation to cities or country but is relevant to job availability. I know someone who lives close to Boston and he says he voted Leave because the population has increased, putting strain on services. The fact that the increase was due to migrant labour was secondary for him, but the link is still there. In some ways you could argue that Boston is booming, employment is high, house prices are increasing etc. but the locals are desperately unhappy.
Regarding your cities vs. country/towns point, I'm always wary of sweeping generalisations as reality is usually more nuanced than this. Cities such as Birmingham, Derby, Bradford, Hull and Sheffield all voted to leave so giving the impression that the cities overall voted a particular way is misleading. Most of these also have a fairly long history of inward migration.
I voted Remain, by the way, but have found it very difficult listening and reading some of the comments here and elsewhere since we left. No doubt at some point there will be a more detailed and impartial analysis of what went on and why but up to now all that seems to be happening is that people grab onto any tenuous piece of information and try to use it to defend their own position. Often they use the same bit of information and draw opposite conclusions from it.

A very well-thought out post, dav, with excellent reasoning. One of the best in this entire thread!

 

[orchard]

Dont the vast majority of people live in cities anyrate?



Aint many fish caught, fields ploughed, or cows raised in them though.

Additionally, redistributed taxes are, and have been focussed on Cities for a long time.

 

[roydo]

lost control of our country!

we have a housing shortage is a major problem of an answer I cannot accept!

Since when did the EU stop successive UK Governments building houses then?

 

[Joey66]

Since when did the EU stop successive UK Governments building houses then?

That's my point we have a cash criisis to cope with not building houses now that's why 330,000 added population each year is not a great idea ok !
Also property prices are beyond the average working man ok!

 

[joey_macmo]

Since when did the EU stop successive UK Governments building houses then?

Reminds me of the "too many builders, not enough houses" call on LBC

 

[roydo]

That's my point we have a cash criisis to cope with not building house now that's why 330,000 added population is not a great idea ok !

No mate. We have failed, for generations, to build enough houses in the UK.

You blame it on immigrants. I blame it on the UK.

Discuss.

 

[Joey66]

No mate. We have failed, for generations, to build enough houses in the UK.

You blame it on immigrants. I blame it on the UK.

Discuss.

We beg to differ if we have problems now with accommodation we need to control our borders that's what the government intend to do ok !

 

[roydo]

We beg to differ if we have problems now with accommodation we need to control our borders that's what the government intend to do ok !

So who's fault is it we have, in your words, a housing shortage? Immigrants, or successive UK Governments?

 

[Clint Planet]

We beg to differ if we have problems now with accommodation we need to control our borders that's what the government intend to do ok !

No, mate. Look at how much social housing has been built these last few decades. It's a disgrace (on the part of New Labour at least as much as the Tories). Essentially, many, many MPs are multiple landlords or else multiple landlords have their ears. To build sufficient social housing would pull the plug on the house price / rental boom so therefore they just don't do it. It's as bad as insider trading.

And then, as they knew would happen, people like you blame "dem immigrants."

Wake up, will you. Stop being a puppet.

 

[Joey66]

So who's fault is it we have, in your words, a housing shortage? Immigrants, or successive UK Governments?

Both in a way this problem has to be addressed as we have a skill shortage and will need future controlled immigration and more affordable housing it's a double edged sword .
I feel sorry for anybody who is struggling to buy or rent ATM!

 

[peteblue]

Utter codswallop. It's been said over and over, the places where migrants are overwhelmingly living and working is the cities, and the cities voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. It's the rural areas and small towns where very few migrants live and work that wanted to leave. Places like Cowboy's town, which has roughly 99% British born residents, yet was one of the strongest voters to leave.

From the Daily Fail:

I think you have missed the point completely Bruce. Don't focus on the immigration which I know you are mostly concerned with, read the bits that discuss trade.........

 

[roydo]

No, mate. Look at how much social housing has been built these last few decades. It's a disgrace (on the part of New Labour at least as much as the Tories. Essentially, many, many MPs are multiple landlords or else multiple landlords have their ears. To build sufficient social housing would pull the plug on the house price / rental boom so therefore they just don't do it. It's as bad as insider trading.

And then, as they knew would happen, people like you blame "dem immigrants."

Wake up, will you. Stop being a puppet.

Its the running sore that, as you say, parties of both colours have curried favour with. The bubble will burst, one day. But it has been a disgrace,

 

[Joey66]

No, mate. Look at how much social housing has been built these last few decades. It's a disgrace (on the part of New Labour at least as much as the Tories). Essentially, many, many MPs are multiple landlords or else multiple landlords have their ears. To build sufficient social housing would pull the plug on the house price / rental boom so therefore they just don't do it. It's as bad as insider trading.

And then, as they knew would happen, people like you blame "dem immigrants."

Wake up, will you. Stop being a puppet.

You use words like racist tones of dem immigrants remember you used those words drag the debate down I would never do that ok!

 

[Clint Planet]

Its the running sore that, as you say, parties of both colours have curried favour with. The bubble will burst, one day. But it has been a disgrace,

It certainly hasn't served the ordinary man in the street. But hey, let's kick the immigrants' heads in.

 

[Clint Planet]

You use words like racist tones of dem immigrants remember you used those words drag the debate down I would never do that ok!

I note you've failed to address my point.