Current Affairs EU In or Out

[TheFinnFan]

"We know many of these people want to frustrate the will of the people. All of this obfuscation, this delay, all the smokescreen, the dust in the eyes is to one end and one end only - they want to stay in the EU at all costs.

"And I say to them very plainly that horse has bolted, the ship has left - we’re not going back to the EU and the sooner they accept that very basic proposition the better it will be for their constituents and for the country as a whole."

it's funny how well that sentence would fit into the discussions that are ongoing on the other side of the big pond.

 

[The Esk]

If it was democratic, based on truth and in the best interests of the country I'd have no problem.

The fact is it is none of the above. The elite have sold the masses a pup and disgustingly the Labour Party have gone along with it.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

For the last time it was not a democratic vote. Referendum on false pretences, argument on false pretences, authority on false pretences, passage through parliament on false pretences.

Both the leave and remain campaigns were an embarrassment to the UK.

 

[peteblue]

If it was democratic, based on truth and in the best interests of the country I'd have no problem.

The fact is it is none of the above. The elite have sold the masses a pup and disgustingly the Labour Party have gone along with it.

I'm sorry mate, but that is crap. No matter how any of this had been handled, portrayed, sold, or communicated, the only result you would accept is remain. We have seen your words, your views and your distain for the democratic process. You believe you know best and you will not move from that position. If it had been 33,400,000 to 1 to leave, you would still be the same.......

 

[Moomin]

If it was democratic, based on truth and in the best interests of the country I'd have no problem.

The fact is it is none of the above. The elite have sold the masses a pup and disgustingly the Labour Party have gone along with it.

It's the new politics now. On Adam Curtis's latest documentary hypernormalistion on the IPlayer.

It focuses quite a bit onTrump with his approach to media and political campaign is very similar to what Putin has been doing for years in Russia.

The media will seek the truth and try to expose lies and inaccuracies. However by constantly lying, changing the message and confusing the message they cant really break through.

 

[bflefc]

For the last time it was not a democratic vote. Referendum on false pretences, argument on false pretences, authority on false pretences, passage through parliament on false pretences.

You really are an embarrassment at times. This is undoubtedly your lowest ebb.

 

[peteblue]

It's the new politics now. On Adam Curtis's latest documentary hypernormalistion on the IPlayer.

It focuses quite a bit onTrump with his approach to media and political campaign is very similar to what Putin has been doing for years in Russia.

The media will seek the truth and try to expose lies and inaccuracies. However by constantly lying, changing the message and confusing the message they cant really break through.

Not really, it's exactly the same as the old politics, full of lies and false promises. The only difference is that instead of accepting a vote, the losers now go to court or demand recounts and tell everyone that they didn't know what they were voting for or they are too stupid........if that's new politics then I don't want any of it.......

 

[peteblue]

Both the leave and remain campaigns were an embarrassment to the UK.

Indeed, both in equal measure......

 

[The Esk]

You really are an embarrassment at times. This is undoubtedly your lowest ebb.

What is perhaps embarrassing is the lowering of standards of honesty and due process in order to achieve a political objective.

That's exactly what the establishment have achieved.

 

[Joey66]

For the last time it was not a democratic vote. Referendum on false pretences, argument on false pretences, authority on false pretences, passage through parliament on false pretences.

So Scotland should have independence?
They lost accepted it
Why can,t you?
The EU seem to be bulling you!
I am not scared of leaving the EU it would be better if all our Parliment sang of the same hymn sheet that is the vote on the
23rd of June 2016!

 

[peteblue]

What is perhaps embarrassing is the lowering of standards of honesty and due process in order to achieve a political objective.

That's exactly what the establishment have achieved.

We have had two votes, the people and parliament, neither of which you accept. How many votes does it take.......

 

[The Esk]

We have had two votes, the people and parliament, neither of which you accept. How many votes does it take.......

I don't accept either. 'The people' were fed lies and parliament doesn't have the courage to challenge the media and elite who perpetrated these lies.

 

[peteblue]

I don't accept either. 'The people' were fed lies and parliament doesn't have the courage to challenge the media and elite who perpetrated this lies.

Oh dear........

 

[joey_macmo]

I see people still don't understand what the case is about in the Supreme Court this week nor who the appallents are.

 

[joey_macmo]