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Yes our idegenous population seem incapable of nursing or bricklaying they all seem to be at uni doing media studies or phycology etc
I've told you, EU migrants contribute to the NHS far more than they cost it. The NHS is struggling for a great many reasons, foremost of which are the demographics of the nation and preponderance of long-term conditions such as diabetes. I've said previously, pensions are paid for out of general taxation, and we have half as many working age people as retirees than we did when the state pension was created. Those retirees are also the biggest drain on NHS resources, as around 1/3 of all NHS spending is spent in the final year of someone's life.
That's the basic equation. We either:
- increase the retirement age significantly
- decrease the state pension significantly
- increase the number of working age people in the country (significantly)
Regarding housing, I must have answered that question at least a dozen times in this thread already. Government after government has pledged to build a lot more houses, and government after government has failed to do so, with the reason for that predominantly the NIMBY planning regulations and the restrictive greenbelt. These things are quite well known but no government has wanted to touch them. Nor have they considered more creative solutions such as a Land Value Tax.
Nursing requires a degree, and if you spent any time on complex wards such as intensive care you would understand why. A bit more Googling might serve you well Joe rather than relying on tabloid tv/radio.
Bruce is throwing some lovely jabs this afternoon.
Nursing should not need a degree Bruce train on the wards like in the old days - this is the exact problem we have you need a degree to wipe your backside!too much googling by you Bruce is making your eyes go googly lol
You can google one question and get three different answers again you avoid the question l will ask again do you think immigration net 333,000 each year is sustainable in the UK???
Yes or no ?
Old Blue 2
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How about a fourth bullet point:
Tax correctly all those multi-millionaires/billionaires who evead tax every year, and also those massive businesses who pay little or no tax every year. If that meant changing the tax laws to close the loopholes (for example if goods are sold on Amazon.co.uk then tax is paid as per UK rules, and the payment is not allowed to be spirited away to some tax-dodging haven elsewhere in the world).
Collect the taxes correctly in the first place and the probelms you pontificate about would not be there.
Selective again, Bruce. Your mantra is TOTALLY boring now...
Jabs by a rabbit with the headlights in his eyes he never answers a question just deflects By googlinglol
Good old Bruce have to hand it to him never gives up if he had to pay for using Google he would be skintlol
Still not answered my question does he think that 330,000 net imigration is sustainable in the UK each year yes or no?
Foot Long Hot Dog
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It'll find its own level ffs.
It's already been explained to you that those net figures include students, who are highly likely to return home.
It's also been explained to you that the vast majority of the rest come here to work, with nearly half already having been offered a job.
If employment opportunities drop, therefore so does the immigration. So why isn't it sustainable, please explain exactly why that is supposedly a fact?
The level has been going up year in year out students still need accommodation the size of a large town arriving yet after year do you not know we already have an housing crisis my question was to Bruce last seen Googling away to justify it?
Old Blue 2
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No reply to mine either (#15215).
This is one of the biggest pieces of uninformed garbage I have ever read in t'internet:
So let's increase the age when people have to continue working before they retire. Great idea, Bruce, NOT!!! All that does is mean that youngsters will have LESS vacancies to pursue. Yeah, Bruce, brilliant idea. Thank Christ you're not in charge of any part of this country. You haven't got a bleedin' clue!
Decrease the State Pension significantly. Yeah, let's place those who need it in more penury. Once again, a great idea, NOT! Totally selfish, 'I'm alright Jack' attitude. An attitude that absolutely stinks! If you live into retirement without being stupidly rich, you may change your tune...!
The third bullet point = let's all agree that I'm (Bruce) right, and allow unfettered immigrant into a finite island with finite resources (without Bruce showing where all the new jobs will come from). Totally LUNATIC thinking.
The above three bullet points I have quoted show a lack of undertsanding of the complete picture, coupled with an insensitive attitude towards a certain part of the population. If you ever lose your job, Bruce, and become unemployed, come back and talk to me, and a few others on here...
After over 100 pages in this thread, your post beggers belief, Bruce. It really does.
This is one of the biggest pieces of uninformed garbage I have ever read in t'internet:
- increase the retirement age significantly
- decrease the state pension significantly
- increase the number of working age people in the country (significantly)
So let's increase the age when people have to continue working before they retire. Great idea, Bruce, NOT!!! All that does is mean that youngsters will have LESS vacancies to pursue. Yeah, Bruce, brilliant idea. Thank Christ you're not in charge of any part of this country. You haven't got a bleedin' clue!
Decrease the State Pension significantly. Yeah, let's place those who need it in more penury. Once again, a great idea, NOT! Totally selfish, 'I'm alright Jack' attitude. An attitude that absolutely stinks! If you live into retirement without being stupidly rich, you may change your tune...!
The third bullet point = let's all agree that I'm (Bruce) right, and allow unfettered immigrant into a finite island with finite resources (without Bruce showing where all the new jobs will come from). Totally LUNATIC thinking.
The above three bullet points I have quoted show a lack of undertsanding of the complete picture, coupled with an insensitive attitude towards a certain part of the population. If you ever lose your job, Bruce, and become unemployed, come back and talk to me, and a few others on here...
After over 100 pages in this thread, your post beggers belief, Bruce. It really does.
Still joking your way around the question is 333,000 net immigration each year sustainable Bruce?My computer has broken I'm afraid Joe.
Or as google let you down lol
You go on about the NHS my mother in law has had a slight stroke 4 hours no ambulance no beds in any hospital!
The Esk
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Yes, it is sustainable and what is more necessary to balance the age demographics of the country - we need more people in employment generating economic activity and therefore income for the Government and the private sector.
The Esk
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Whilst sorry for your Mother in Law, are you suggesting her wait was down to the level of immigration?
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