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[orchard]

COP26: Minister says nations that don't attend climate change summit will be 'outliers' - amid report China's Xi set to snub Glasgow gathering

An unidentified British source is quoted in The Times as saying: "It is now pretty clear that Xi is not going to turn up and the PM [Boris Johnson] has been told that."

news.sky.com

Winnie The Pooh not bothering, which says it all about just how pointless this all is.

I wouldn't say that there is no point, there definitely is a vital point.

However, as illustrated earlier in the thread, COP has been totally ineffective, merely giving an impression something's being done, which has been downright dangerous to the future humanity.

 

[grandjoeblue]

I know the media do these stories to wind people up but I've just seen that another of these Insulate Britain protestors drove around 52 countries the other year.

All a bit odd.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

Kicking off at the National Trust - a group of right wing entryists are standing for election to its council. They've had it up to here with these bloody woke snowflakes banging on about slavery.

The National Trust has needlessly provoked an ‘anti-woke’ campaign | Simon Jenkins

If the trust’s properties have slavery links, we should know. Yet to attack Churchill played into the hands of culture warriors, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

Annual General Meeting

Your Annual General Meeting will take place online and in person on Saturday 7th November 2026 at the STEAM Museum, Swindon.

www.nationaltrust.org.uk

The trust has clout - 5 million plus members, one of the largest land owners in the country. I believe this argy bargy clouds the real issues at play (usually the case whenever the woke / antiwoke circus comes to town) - the NT has massive upkeep costs for decaying stately homes, a lot are remote and not all that interesting.
So there are tensions between the bums on seats, dumb it down, bigger tea room approach, and a more historical curation approach which is costly and will never bring a return at a lot of places. But the NT is legally bound to the upkeep of these buildings - it is the custodian of really substantial amounts of heritage and it's an important question as to what we want to do with it.

 

[orchard]

Kicking off at the National Trust - a group of right wing entryists are standing for election to its council. They've had it up to here with these bloody woke snowflakes banging on about slavery.

The National Trust has needlessly provoked an ‘anti-woke’ campaign | Simon Jenkins

If the trust’s properties have slavery links, we should know. Yet to attack Churchill played into the hands of culture warriors, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

Annual General Meeting

Your Annual General Meeting will take place online and in person on Saturday 7th November 2026 at the STEAM Museum, Swindon.

www.nationaltrust.org.uk

The trust has clout - 5 million plus members, one of the largest land owners in the country. I believe this argy bargy clouds the real issues at play (usually the case whenever the woke / antiwoke circus comes to town) - the NT has massive upkeep costs for decaying stately homes, a lot are remote and not all that interesting.
So there are tensions between the bums on seats, dumb it down, bigger tea room approach, and a more historical curation approach which is costly and will never bring a return at a lot of places. But the NT is legally bound to the upkeep of these buildings - it is the custodian of really substantial amounts of heritage and it's an important question as to what we want to do with it.

Yeah, CBA with the bunch of fannies, I'll ditch our longstanding subscription for deffo.

 

[tsubaki]

Kicking off at the National Trust - a group of right wing entryists are standing for election to its council. They've had it up to here with these bloody woke snowflakes banging on about slavery.

The National Trust has needlessly provoked an ‘anti-woke’ campaign | Simon Jenkins

If the trust’s properties have slavery links, we should know. Yet to attack Churchill played into the hands of culture warriors, says Guardian columnist Simon Jenkins

www.theguardian.com

Annual General Meeting

Your Annual General Meeting will take place online and in person on Saturday 7th November 2026 at the STEAM Museum, Swindon.

www.nationaltrust.org.uk

The trust has clout - 5 million plus members, one of the largest land owners in the country. I believe this argy bargy clouds the real issues at play (usually the case whenever the woke / antiwoke circus comes to town) - the NT has massive upkeep costs for decaying stately homes, a lot are remote and not all that interesting.
So there are tensions between the bums on seats, dumb it down, bigger tea room approach, and a more historical curation approach which is costly and will never bring a return at a lot of places. But the NT is legally bound to the upkeep of these buildings - it is the custodian of really substantial amounts of heritage and it's an important question as to what we want to do with it.

Simon Jenkins is such a tit - article after article blaming everyone other than journalists.

As an aside though our culture and history does need to be better managed. Chester for example should be much better tourist destination than it is.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

These guys set off for Glasgow this morning to highlight the huge impact air pollution has on our health (*disclaimer, my wife was with them)

 

[JimmyJeffers]

These guys set off for Glasgow this morning to highlight the huge impact air pollution has on our health (*disclaimer, my wife was with them)

What do they propose to improve air quality?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What do they propose to improve air quality?

It's quite high-level stuff tbh, but it's a meaningful change as they're joined by the World Health Organisation in highlighting the health impact of climate change, which Pete et al were disputing earlier in this thread.

#HealthyClimate

The 2021 United Nations climate negotiations in November (COP26) are a critical moment and opportunity to put the world on a path that protects people from catastrophic climate change. The health community around the world is coming together to send a message to national leaders and country...

healthyclimateletter.net

We call on the leaders of every country and their representatives at COP26 to avert the impending health catastrophe by limiting global warming to 1.5°C, and to make human health and equity central to all climate change mitigation and adaptation actions.

Specifically:

• We call on all nations to update their national climate commitments under the Paris Agreement to commit to their fair share of limiting warming to 1.5°C; and we call on them to build health into those plans;
• We call on all nations to deliver a rapid and just transition away from fossil fuels, starting with immediately cutting all related permits, subsidies and financing for fossil fuels, and to completely shift current financing into development of clean energy;
• We call on high income countries to make larger cuts to greenhouse gas emissions, in line with a 1.5°C temperature goal;
• We call on high income countries to also provide the promised transfer of funds to low-income countries to help achieve the necessary mitigation and adaptation measures;
• We call on governments to build climate resilient, low-carbon, sustainable health systems; and
• We call on governments to also ensure that pandemic recovery investments support climate action and reduce social and health inequities.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The Lancet has recently said much the same

DEFINE_ME

and I personally spoke to the boss of Great Ormond Street on Friday, and he was saying they have an air pollution monitor outside the building and it's over the recommended level every day. GOSH and Evalina are heading up the campaign in London.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What do they propose to improve air quality?

I should add, of course, that all of the hospitals involved are themselves pledging to significantly improve their environmental impact, with, I think, GOSH pledging be net-zero by 2030.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

G20 Peoples’ Climate Vote: Large majority back action

Two in three adults across G20 believe climate change is a global emergency. Their children are even more alarmed.

www.ox.ac.uk

 

[Willie Thorne]

Someone is going get out bed the wrong side one of these mornings and just mow these swampys down. Inevitable.

 

[grandjoeblue]

The average age of the protestors is about 70.

 

[WA Toffee]

I would suggest being careful of what you wish for. Australia had a national insulation rollout program a few years ago. Due to the industry growing exponentially almost overnight, the govt lost oversight and a lot of cowboys entered the market, directly resulting in 4 deaths and over 100 house fires.

A royal enquiry placed the blame squarely at the feet of the govt.

I dread to think of the outcome if Johnson is in charge of it

 

[orchard]

G20 Peoples’ Climate Vote: Large majority back action

Two in three adults across G20 believe climate change is a global emergency. Their children are even more alarmed.

www.ox.ac.uk

Nice sentiments, but they'll get fobbed off again with carbon credit scamming, or somesuch.

Do you actually think it's possible to replace our current economic model based on cheap oil with a green equivalent that's environmentally sound ?