I've nothing but contempt for this horrible, small time, scummy club. Trying to claim he might not have been registered so therefore they may not have actually owned the player. Scumbags. Don't effing parade him around then. Hope they get successive relegations and go bust. Pay up.
Emiliano Sala
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Player Valuation: £90m
AAIB Special Bulletin S1/2019 on Piper PA-46-310P Malibu, N264DB
Aircraft lost 22 nm north-northwest of Guernsey, 21 January 2019.
longers
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I feel like lots of other clubs would do exactly the same tbh
Another link to the report
Looks like the pilot may have flown it into the sea trying to dodge clouds. Sad all around.
Looks like the pilot may have flown it into the sea trying to dodge clouds. Sad all around.
tommytowne
Player Valuation: £50m
I'm probably guilty of being a bit selective on this whole sad situation, but one of the things that is sticking with me was seeing and hearing about the scheduled flights used for agent and Warnock. Then in somebodies wisdom, subjecting the player to fly in a ricketty single engine light aircraft. Those texts where Sala jokingly says he is sitting in a plane that looks as if it's going to fall apart are sadly prophetic.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
Police investigate Willie McKay amid Cardiff City 'kill' threat allegation after Emiliano Sala tragedy
2 MARCH 2019 • 10:30 PM
Police are investigating alleged threats by Willie McKay towards senior Cardiff City officials, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
An inquiry has been launched amid accusations the man who booked Emiliano Sala’s doomed flightthreatened to “kill everybody” at the club.
A complaint by Cardiff also claims he made similar threats against specific individuals, both in person and over the telephone.
Telegraph Sport has been told by sources close to the club that these individuals, who this publication has agreed not to name, are taking the threats seriously and have provided witness statements to that effect.
The police investigation is a major escalation in the acrimonious fallout from the fatal Jan 21 plane crash.
South Wales Police said that it “can confirm that a complaint has been received from Cardiff City Football Club and is currently being investigated”.
On conviction, a death threat is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Sala was killed in a plane crash in January
Cardiff declined to comment beyond stating: “It was necessary and appropriate for South Wales Police to be engaged on the matter.”
But The Telegraph has learnt they accuse McKay of threatening to “kill everybody” at the club on the weekend of the footballer’s funeral in Argentina last month.
He is alleged to have told club officials: “I’ll kill everybody if my sons get slaughtered.”
McKay’s eldest son, Mark, was one of the agents involved in Sala’s transfer from Nantes to Cardiff, while another of his sons, Jack, helped make arrangements for the player’s doomed trip.
McKay has previously claimed he and his children – two of whom are Cardiff players – had “been through hell” over reprisals after the crash.
He has also accused Cardiff of “trying to throw me under the bus” over Sala’s death and of knowing about all flights arranged as part of the striker’s transfer.
Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock attending Sala's funeral in Santa Fe, Argentina
This newspaper has been told his alleged threats prompted club lawyers to write to his lawyers requesting he desist and banning him from their stadium.
McKay did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday, having previously been abusive towards Telegraph reporters investigating the flight that killed Sala.
News of the police investigation follows an explosive television interview with McKay last week that cast major doubt on the legality of the flight.
In it, McKay admitted agreeing to pay the entire cost of the journey, a practice banned for such trips under the Civil Aviation Act.
That is because neither the pilot, Dave Ibbotson, nor the plane, a Piper Malibu PA-46-310P, had been licensed to undertake commercial flights.
McKay’s confession could be the catalyst for negligence and other legal claims by Cardiff against him and Sala’s former club Nantes – for whom Mark had worked during the player’s move to Wales and was due 10 per cent of the transfer fee.
McKay has repeatedly stated that Sala’s fatal flight was booked via Dave Henderson – an experienced light aircraft pilot who had flown him around Europe many times – and that he had no input into the selection of pilot or plane.
Henderson has yet to comment on any of McKay’s claims and attempts to reach him last week were unsuccessful. Ibbotson, who died with £23,400 worth of county court judgments against him, is still missing-presumed-dead following the crash into the English Channel.
It emerged on Saturday he had dropped out of a commercial pilot’s licence course in 2014 after failing to complete his theoretical training.
Cardiff have frozen payment of Sala’s record £15 million transfer fee to the French club pending the outcome of the investigation into his plane crash.
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On Tuesday, Nantes lodged a formal complaint over the non-payment with Fifa, which later confirmed it was investigating.
It could be forced to arbitrate in a case complicated by Sala having signed a potentially-invalid contract with Cardiff, who plan to argue that made his transfer from Nantes incomplete.
Speaking in Scotland at the annual meeting of the International Football Association Board Fifa president Gianni Infantino said the entire Sala saga had been a “terrible tragedy”.
He added of the investigation: “We have to see what the consequences are.”
2 MARCH 2019 • 10:30 PM
Police are investigating alleged threats by Willie McKay towards senior Cardiff City officials, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
An inquiry has been launched amid accusations the man who booked Emiliano Sala’s doomed flightthreatened to “kill everybody” at the club.
A complaint by Cardiff also claims he made similar threats against specific individuals, both in person and over the telephone.
Telegraph Sport has been told by sources close to the club that these individuals, who this publication has agreed not to name, are taking the threats seriously and have provided witness statements to that effect.
The police investigation is a major escalation in the acrimonious fallout from the fatal Jan 21 plane crash.
South Wales Police said that it “can confirm that a complaint has been received from Cardiff City Football Club and is currently being investigated”.
On conviction, a death threat is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Cardiff declined to comment beyond stating: “It was necessary and appropriate for South Wales Police to be engaged on the matter.”
But The Telegraph has learnt they accuse McKay of threatening to “kill everybody” at the club on the weekend of the footballer’s funeral in Argentina last month.
He is alleged to have told club officials: “I’ll kill everybody if my sons get slaughtered.”
McKay’s eldest son, Mark, was one of the agents involved in Sala’s transfer from Nantes to Cardiff, while another of his sons, Jack, helped make arrangements for the player’s doomed trip.
McKay has previously claimed he and his children – two of whom are Cardiff players – had “been through hell” over reprisals after the crash.
He has also accused Cardiff of “trying to throw me under the bus” over Sala’s death and of knowing about all flights arranged as part of the striker’s transfer.
This newspaper has been told his alleged threats prompted club lawyers to write to his lawyers requesting he desist and banning him from their stadium.
McKay did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday, having previously been abusive towards Telegraph reporters investigating the flight that killed Sala.
News of the police investigation follows an explosive television interview with McKay last week that cast major doubt on the legality of the flight.
In it, McKay admitted agreeing to pay the entire cost of the journey, a practice banned for such trips under the Civil Aviation Act.
That is because neither the pilot, Dave Ibbotson, nor the plane, a Piper Malibu PA-46-310P, had been licensed to undertake commercial flights.
McKay’s confession could be the catalyst for negligence and other legal claims by Cardiff against him and Sala’s former club Nantes – for whom Mark had worked during the player’s move to Wales and was due 10 per cent of the transfer fee.
McKay has repeatedly stated that Sala’s fatal flight was booked via Dave Henderson – an experienced light aircraft pilot who had flown him around Europe many times – and that he had no input into the selection of pilot or plane.
Henderson has yet to comment on any of McKay’s claims and attempts to reach him last week were unsuccessful. Ibbotson, who died with £23,400 worth of county court judgments against him, is still missing-presumed-dead following the crash into the English Channel.
It emerged on Saturday he had dropped out of a commercial pilot’s licence course in 2014 after failing to complete his theoretical training.
Cardiff have frozen payment of Sala’s record £15 million transfer fee to the French club pending the outcome of the investigation into his plane crash.
View more!
On Tuesday, Nantes lodged a formal complaint over the non-payment with Fifa, which later confirmed it was investigating.
It could be forced to arbitrate in a case complicated by Sala having signed a potentially-invalid contract with Cardiff, who plan to argue that made his transfer from Nantes incomplete.
Speaking in Scotland at the annual meeting of the International Football Association Board Fifa president Gianni Infantino said the entire Sala saga had been a “terrible tragedy”.
He added of the investigation: “We have to see what the consequences are.”
Police investigate Willie McKay amid Cardiff City 'kill' threat allegation after Emiliano Sala tragedy
2 MARCH 2019 • 10:30 PM
Police are investigating alleged threats by Willie McKay towards senior Cardiff City officials, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
An inquiry has been launched amid accusations the man who booked Emiliano Sala’s doomed flightthreatened to “kill everybody” at the club.
A complaint by Cardiff also claims he made similar threats against specific individuals, both in person and over the telephone.
Telegraph Sport has been told by sources close to the club that these individuals, who this publication has agreed not to name, are taking the threats seriously and have provided witness statements to that effect.
The police investigation is a major escalation in the acrimonious fallout from the fatal Jan 21 plane crash.
South Wales Police said that it “can confirm that a complaint has been received from Cardiff City Football Club and is currently being investigated”.
On conviction, a death threat is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Sala was killed in a plane crash in January
Cardiff declined to comment beyond stating: “It was necessary and appropriate for South Wales Police to be engaged on the matter.”
But The Telegraph has learnt they accuse McKay of threatening to “kill everybody” at the club on the weekend of the footballer’s funeral in Argentina last month.
He is alleged to have told club officials: “I’ll kill everybody if my sons get slaughtered.”
McKay’s eldest son, Mark, was one of the agents involved in Sala’s transfer from Nantes to Cardiff, while another of his sons, Jack, helped make arrangements for the player’s doomed trip.
McKay has previously claimed he and his children – two of whom are Cardiff players – had “been through hell” over reprisals after the crash.
He has also accused Cardiff of “trying to throw me under the bus” over Sala’s death and of knowing about all flights arranged as part of the striker’s transfer.
Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock attending Sala's funeral in Santa Fe, Argentina
This newspaper has been told his alleged threats prompted club lawyers to write to his lawyers requesting he desist and banning him from their stadium.
McKay did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday, having previously been abusive towards Telegraph reporters investigating the flight that killed Sala.
News of the police investigation follows an explosive television interview with McKay last week that cast major doubt on the legality of the flight.
In it, McKay admitted agreeing to pay the entire cost of the journey, a practice banned for such trips under the Civil Aviation Act.
That is because neither the pilot, Dave Ibbotson, nor the plane, a Piper Malibu PA-46-310P, had been licensed to undertake commercial flights.
McKay’s confession could be the catalyst for negligence and other legal claims by Cardiff against him and Sala’s former club Nantes – for whom Mark had worked during the player’s move to Wales and was due 10 per cent of the transfer fee.
McKay has repeatedly stated that Sala’s fatal flight was booked via Dave Henderson – an experienced light aircraft pilot who had flown him around Europe many times – and that he had no input into the selection of pilot or plane.
Henderson has yet to comment on any of McKay’s claims and attempts to reach him last week were unsuccessful. Ibbotson, who died with £23,400 worth of county court judgments against him, is still missing-presumed-dead following the crash into the English Channel.
It emerged on Saturday he had dropped out of a commercial pilot’s licence course in 2014 after failing to complete his theoretical training.
Cardiff have frozen payment of Sala’s record £15 million transfer fee to the French club pending the outcome of the investigation into his plane crash.
View more!
On Tuesday, Nantes lodged a formal complaint over the non-payment with Fifa, which later confirmed it was investigating.
It could be forced to arbitrate in a case complicated by Sala having signed a potentially-invalid contract with Cardiff, who plan to argue that made his transfer from Nantes incomplete.
Speaking in Scotland at the annual meeting of the International Football Association Board Fifa president Gianni Infantino said the entire Sala saga had been a “terrible tragedy”.
He added of the investigation: “We have to see what the consequences are.”
Cardiff doing all it can to not have to make payments for the transfer.
Disgraceful stuff from the club.
The Celtic View
Player Valuation: £20m
I admit what I know about insurance coud be written on the back of an acid tab, but is it possible the company who provide Cardiff's insurance may be the ones demanding to know all the details of the incident, and if they feel someone else is responsible, decide they won't pay out any money?
Cardiff will have insurers, and if any payment comes out of their pockets why would Cardiff care if the insurers have to pay it, as long as the money isn't coming out of the clubs coffers?
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
The article centres on McKay and his sons and the claims that they may have acted irresponsibly, if proven it will have all kinds of knock on consequences, not least on liability and insurance cover.
The fact the son was employed by Nantes and the pilot hired by the son perhaps not being properly qualified or registered to fly such aircraft, plus all the questions over the player's registration being incomplete, will mean the insurer may not be liable to pay out a penny.
These questions have to be sorted, clubs like Cardiff can't afford to be the nice moral guys who are happy to pay out and just write off such (for them) record amounts of money if they can't claim a cent of it back.
They are run by Asian businessmen who may or may not be football enthusiasts, but who are almost certainly primarily attracted to the premier league for financial reasons and making money, it is seen to be a financially beneficial by very rich men.
Rich and successful businessmen don't get wealthy by not knowing how business works, you don't pay out just because some posters on social media think you should, there are far bigger issues for them, and potentially not being recompensed is one of them.
Chris O'Connor
Player Valuation: £35m
See the two answers above, there are legitimate questions to be answered they're not reckless and if not liable can't pay up
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Police investigate Willie McKay amid Cardiff City 'kill' threat allegation after Emiliano Sala tragedy
2 MARCH 2019 • 10:30 PM
Police are investigating alleged threats by Willie McKay towards senior Cardiff City officials, Telegraph Sport can reveal.
An inquiry has been launched amid accusations the man who booked Emiliano Sala’s doomed flightthreatened to “kill everybody” at the club.
A complaint by Cardiff also claims he made similar threats against specific individuals, both in person and over the telephone.
Telegraph Sport has been told by sources close to the club that these individuals, who this publication has agreed not to name, are taking the threats seriously and have provided witness statements to that effect.
The police investigation is a major escalation in the acrimonious fallout from the fatal Jan 21 plane crash.
South Wales Police said that it “can confirm that a complaint has been received from Cardiff City Football Club and is currently being investigated”.
On conviction, a death threat is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
Sala was killed in a plane crash in January
Cardiff declined to comment beyond stating: “It was necessary and appropriate for South Wales Police to be engaged on the matter.”
But The Telegraph has learnt they accuse McKay of threatening to “kill everybody” at the club on the weekend of the footballer’s funeral in Argentina last month.
He is alleged to have told club officials: “I’ll kill everybody if my sons get slaughtered.”
McKay’s eldest son, Mark, was one of the agents involved in Sala’s transfer from Nantes to Cardiff, while another of his sons, Jack, helped make arrangements for the player’s doomed trip.
McKay has previously claimed he and his children – two of whom are Cardiff players – had “been through hell” over reprisals after the crash.
He has also accused Cardiff of “trying to throw me under the bus” over Sala’s death and of knowing about all flights arranged as part of the striker’s transfer.
Cardiff City manager Neil Warnock attending Sala's funeral in Santa Fe, Argentina
This newspaper has been told his alleged threats prompted club lawyers to write to his lawyers requesting he desist and banning him from their stadium.
McKay did not respond to requests for comment on Saturday, having previously been abusive towards Telegraph reporters investigating the flight that killed Sala.
News of the police investigation follows an explosive television interview with McKay last week that cast major doubt on the legality of the flight.
In it, McKay admitted agreeing to pay the entire cost of the journey, a practice banned for such trips under the Civil Aviation Act.
That is because neither the pilot, Dave Ibbotson, nor the plane, a Piper Malibu PA-46-310P, had been licensed to undertake commercial flights.
McKay’s confession could be the catalyst for negligence and other legal claims by Cardiff against him and Sala’s former club Nantes – for whom Mark had worked during the player’s move to Wales and was due 10 per cent of the transfer fee.
McKay has repeatedly stated that Sala’s fatal flight was booked via Dave Henderson – an experienced light aircraft pilot who had flown him around Europe many times – and that he had no input into the selection of pilot or plane.
Henderson has yet to comment on any of McKay’s claims and attempts to reach him last week were unsuccessful. Ibbotson, who died with £23,400 worth of county court judgments against him, is still missing-presumed-dead following the crash into the English Channel.
It emerged on Saturday he had dropped out of a commercial pilot’s licence course in 2014 after failing to complete his theoretical training.
Cardiff have frozen payment of Sala’s record £15 million transfer fee to the French club pending the outcome of the investigation into his plane crash.
View more!
On Tuesday, Nantes lodged a formal complaint over the non-payment with Fifa, which later confirmed it was investigating.
It could be forced to arbitrate in a case complicated by Sala having signed a potentially-invalid contract with Cardiff, who plan to argue that made his transfer from Nantes incomplete.
Speaking in Scotland at the annual meeting of the International Football Association Board Fifa president Gianni Infantino said the entire Sala saga had been a “terrible tragedy”.
He added of the investigation: “We have to see what the consequences are.”
If I was Cardiff I would take these threats seriously, he has already killed one of their players.
Have said this all along McKay is as shifty as they come and hopefully will have a lot to answer regarding this, don't understand all the fume about Cardiff, they are doing the right thing and holding off until they see who is legally responsible for this whole sad mess.
We're owned by a man who got rich working for Ernst & Young, Deloitte and Alisher Usmanov - who himself has also put money into Everton Football Club.
If people are getting morally indignant about the realities of the fallout of a £15m financial deal that has gone horribly and tragically wrong then I sincerely recommend they don't do any in depth reading about the above companies or individuals. The kind of massive financial wealth needed to own a PL club is often built on unethical morals and the willingness to ignore the harm caused to others.
Selective social media moral indignation at it's finest.
If people are getting morally indignant about the realities of the fallout of a £15m financial deal that has gone horribly and tragically wrong then I sincerely recommend they don't do any in depth reading about the above companies or individuals. The kind of massive financial wealth needed to own a PL club is often built on unethical morals and the willingness to ignore the harm caused to others.
Selective social media moral indignation at it's finest.
The binman chronicles
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes and no. We may think that money is awash in football but you don't know what state the accounts are in at Cardiff. They could be in precarious situation financially and when you buy a player for a club record (esp. a young one) you are at least expecting to be able to sell him on for the same amount or a profit. If the insurance company don't pay up are you going to label them disgusting to? At the end of the day you have to expect the club to fight for its sake too, if it happened here, as sad as it is, Everton has to come first in the list of priorities.
A would like them all to get round a table and try and compromise, that might be Cardiff paying 5 million, the agents pay up 5 million (as they are the ones who arranged his travel), a bit of insurance thrown in and Nantes make a contribution by reducing the amount they expect. Then all 3 clubs have shouldered some responsibility and hopefully lessons have been learnt so that in future the buying and selling clubs and the agents all have a responsibility for the welfare of the player.
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