ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[bluejock]

If he was still manager of Swansea it'd be nauseating. However he isn't - he's Liverpool's manager and that leaves him (or should do) in a pretty awkward spot. Imagine yourself, God forbid. to have been a family member affected by that tragedy and then you see that daft **** in a Sun t-shirt. I wouldn't give a flying one if he was doing it for a charity or not.

To anyone with a connection to Merseyside, it'd be awful. Unfortunately to the reat ok the UK, it's not an issue. Like I said, it should be but it's not.

It's unfortunate for him as he's ended up there but on the same level as a manager who'd voted for Thatcher in the 80's becoming their manager.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

How am I wrong?

Dave. It may escape you that the derision the Sun rightfully gets from Scousers and those associated with the Hillsborough tragedy Isn't shared by the rest of the country.


The government has only in the past few months admitted fault for the cover cup almost 30 years later. To that end, I wouldn't expect a popular newspaper that carried a story which was never given any weight by people in power until recently to have any bearing on people's opinion.

Rodgers is a Liverpool manager, before was Swansea manager.


Are you arguing that his support of the Sun full stop is bad, yes I agree, but not using it to support a piss poor agenda against them lot by using the tragedy to make a point of it though.

 

[davek]

To anyone with a connection to Merseyside, it'd be awful. Unfortunately to the reat ok the UK, it's not an issue. Like I said, it should be but it's not.

It's unfortunate for him as he's ended up there but on the same level as a manager who'd voted for Thatcher in the 80's becoming their manager.

But that's just it, we have to try and see these issues through the eyes of the families robbed of their loved ones. They must feel at the very least embarrassment and very probably angered. If it were me, God forbid, I wouldn't care if he was manager at Swansea at the time, I'd think he was a complete [Poor language removed]. Unfortunately for those families they now have to put up with him as their manager (those who support LFC, that is).

 

[Goat]

If he did it when Swansea Manager, more fool him.
If he did it when RS Manager, what a complete tool.

 

[Titus Bramble]

But that's just it, we have to try and see these issues through the eyes of the families robbed of their loved ones. They must feel at the very least embarrassment and very probably angered. If it were me, God forbid, I wouldn't care if he was manager at Swansea at the time, I'd think he was a complete [Poor language removed]. Unfortunately for those families they now have to put up with him as their manager (those who support LFC, that is).

We all knew that anyway.

 

[davek]

Dave. It may escape you that the derision the Sun rightfully gets from Scousers and those associated with the Hillsborough tragedy Isn't shared by the rest of the country.


The government has only in the past few months admitted fault for the cover cup almost 30 years later. To that end, I wouldn't expect a popular newspaper that carried a story which was never given any weight by people in power until recently to have any bearing on people's opinion.

Rodgers is a Liverpool manager, before was Swansea manager.


Are you arguing that his support of the Sun full stop is bad, yes I agree, but not using it to support a piss poor agenda against them lot by using the tragedy to make a point of it though.

He knew. It didn't take the H'Boro Inquiry Report for all of football to know what an injustice had been made. That was the worst kept secret in football. Let's not plead any extenuating circumstance for his actions where they dont exist. To believe the Report had to be in place and read before anyone could make a judgement on whether to welcome or repel the Sun's advances is a nonsense.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

He knew. It didn't take the H'Boro Inquiry Report for all of football to know what an injustice had been made. That was the worst kept secret in football. Let's not plead any extenuating circumstance for his actions where they dont exist. To believe the Report had to be in place and read before anyone could make a judgement on whether to welcome or repel the Sun's advances is a nonsense.

It took the highest governing body in the country to investigate Dave, i would they where special circumstances.

 

[Kurt.]

Yeah but lads...that Kammy is a cnut though !!!

 

[bluejock]

We're all clear that this picture is from 2011, yeah?

Right, admission time. I used to buy the S*n. Like, every morning. I had no idea I shouldn't be buying it. Until I actually read up on Hillsborough, I had no idea what they'd done. This, unfortunately, is the norm around the country, everywhere outside the North West.

Now that I do know, I'm as vocal a supporter of the boycott as anyone and am just as disgusted by what was written as the next man. I won't however, leap to judgement of someone who was in the same position as me.

 

[peteblue]

While I would laugh at the fact that it will now embarrass him, as many have said he had no relationship with the City of Liverpool and that he couldn't be expected to behave any differently. I do agree with Dave though that the families may well view this differently.........

 

[Deleted member 28206]

We're all clear that this picture is from 2011, yeah?

Right, admission time. I used to buy the S*n. Like, every morning. I had no idea I shouldn't be buying it. Until I actually read up on Hillsborough, I had no idea what they'd done. This, unfortunately, is the norm around the country, everywhere outside the North West.

Now that I do know, I'm as vocal a supporter of the boycott as anyone and am just as disgusted by what was written as the next man. I won't however, leap to judgement of someone who was in the same position as me.

It's not an admission Jock, the Bulgarian Blue who posted here was ripped to bits for posting a link to the Sun, he wasn't to know outside of Liverpool the hatred for it.

Dave knows any excuse to stick the knife if will be accepted here, I won't argue over the merits of his agenda like, but he can respect my opinion and I can his.

 

[davek]

It took the highest governing body in the country to investigate Dave, i would they where special circumstances.

They were dragged kicking and screaming to read the non-Governmental reports and various testimonies that have been in the public domain for years. The Report was just an elaborate, bells and whistles hands up in the air acceptance of what everyone knew. Anyway, the cover up is a separate issue. It was accepted a long time ago that the Sun lied...they accepted that well before Rodgers went puffing and panting up Kilimanjaro for them. He knew it. He'd have had to have been brain dead not to have thought: 'this Sun sponsorship t-shirt - hmmm'. And then (like many others shamefully in the game over the years) have said 'ahh **** it, I'll wear it'.

Anyway, as you imply, an Evertonian expressing stuff like this holds themselves open to charges of exploiting H'boro for narrow partisan purposes. So that's my final word on the topic.

 

[bluejock]

I'm fully in agreement by the way that the families might see this differently and there's no way I could claim to know what they make of this, but if pushed, I'd say they'd probably see it similarly.

 

[Brennan]

He knew. It didn't take the H'Boro Inquiry Report for all of football to know what an injustice had been made. That was the worst kept secret in football. Let's not plead any extenuating circumstance for his actions where they dont exist. To believe the Report had to be in place and read before anyone could make a judgement on whether to welcome or repel the Sun's advances is a nonsense.

Is right.

 

[tsubaki]

I find the man equally hateful and amusing, but to have a pop at him for wearing a shirt that had the Sun logo on it, as part of a photo op for a charity hike that raised money for good causes, a full year before he took over at the tin mine, is a bit much.