I essentially had to become one for the 10 minutes it took to construct that message. It was a dark place, and I never want to go back again.
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"
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I essentially had to become one for the 10 minutes it took to construct that message. It was a dark place, and I never want to go back again.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I love this fella from the states.....hardened RAWK Kopite.....
In respect of their Commercial move to London.....
Trendisnotdestiny
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Re: So the commercial epicentre of LIVERPOOL FC will be London huh
« Reply #453 on: Today at 05:03:27 PM »
"Expanding beyond the City's limits meme is just more of (TINA - There is no alternative) free-market group think narrative.
With any amount of imagination, one could see how the reframed greener pastures of major financial centres are code for the same types of practices which have brought us the recent financial crises across the world of neoliberal (growth by any means).
Critiques to consider:
1) A Mentality of Disposability - groups and communities
2) Neglected labor and divide/conquer tactics, where the working people are left out
3) Wage theft, inequality, and private exploitation of public resources and space
Granted this is not FSG's modus operandi, but every decision, and choice has a consequence. Hence, looking at it your way Craig would mean being complicit with values that do not align with the culture of the club (imo, in a noticeable, but small manner).
In every choice, there is a way to honor the different parties of an objective. Clearly, this was not that well considered with Billy's press release. Capital and labor have very different ideas about what is good for a community, or organization. One might say in this context "the storm" in you'll never walk alone is the oppression of the working class.
Aligning with capital centres in London is a pretty clear statement. It does not have to be exaggerated as some catastrophic slight, but certainly should not be spun into a false sense of local strength (i.e. because the club is so strong, now we can move to London stuff).
We cannot export our critical thinking skills to a purely self-serving corporate argument, can we? "
...................answers on a postcard please.........
In respect of their Commercial move to London.....
Trendisnotdestiny
purveyor of [Poor language removed] gifs
Legend
Re: So the commercial epicentre of LIVERPOOL FC will be London huh
« Reply #453 on: Today at 05:03:27 PM »
"Expanding beyond the City's limits meme is just more of (TINA - There is no alternative) free-market group think narrative.
With any amount of imagination, one could see how the reframed greener pastures of major financial centres are code for the same types of practices which have brought us the recent financial crises across the world of neoliberal (growth by any means).
Critiques to consider:
1) A Mentality of Disposability - groups and communities
2) Neglected labor and divide/conquer tactics, where the working people are left out
3) Wage theft, inequality, and private exploitation of public resources and space
Granted this is not FSG's modus operandi, but every decision, and choice has a consequence. Hence, looking at it your way Craig would mean being complicit with values that do not align with the culture of the club (imo, in a noticeable, but small manner).
In every choice, there is a way to honor the different parties of an objective. Clearly, this was not that well considered with Billy's press release. Capital and labor have very different ideas about what is good for a community, or organization. One might say in this context "the storm" in you'll never walk alone is the oppression of the working class.
Aligning with capital centres in London is a pretty clear statement. It does not have to be exaggerated as some catastrophic slight, but certainly should not be spun into a false sense of local strength (i.e. because the club is so strong, now we can move to London stuff).
We cannot export our critical thinking skills to a purely self-serving corporate argument, can we? "
...................answers on a postcard please.........
LOL. A man who's head is that firmly lodged up his arse has about 10 minutes breathing time left, tops
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
*picks up thesaurus*
*writes essay on Liverpool based non-event*
*writes essay on Liverpool based non-event*
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
He's a hero of mine. I'm thinking of creating a sitcom with him as one of the main characters........
Looks like hes already lost the majority of the Rawkites, then as they gurn like gargoyles simultaneously...."y-e-r whaaaaa, critical thinking skills....wharra they ?????? "
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Liverpool Ladies knocked out of the Champions League by Linkoping.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29654152
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29654152
Clearly. Pirlo, one of the greatest players of his generation, the heartbeat of the Italy side and Milan/Juve for over a decade. Versus Gerrard, who has perennially failed at international level and who has built a reputation on hollywood passes and goals
What's that above? They're moving a section of Liverpool Football Club down to London?
Liverpool is the fastest growing economy outside London, it's a pointless exercise. I wonder what that cretin Aldridge thinks of this? Actually, who cares - I don't.
Now that club is a total disgrace to this city.
Liverpool is the fastest growing economy outside London, it's a pointless exercise. I wonder what that cretin Aldridge thinks of this? Actually, who cares - I don't.
Now that club is a total disgrace to this city.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
New to the whole 'Liverpool moving their commercial office to London' thing.
The whole thing is hilarious. The squirming on RAWK is brilliant - people torn between knowing that it's wrong, but also using the 'London is the business centre of the U.K.' b.s. excuse.
The gradual realisation that this is another step away from their local roots is great.
Their whole club was built on utter greed - John Houlding demanding more money and breaking an agreement, and Everton taking the high road by refusing to bow to pressure and taking the club elsewhere instead of being held to ransom over the rent.
So they were built on greed, and they've been like it ever since. And now their pursuit of greed is being manifested in the events of recent years. "We'll abandon our local roots because, well, all the money is in London". 2 hours away on a train. Lol.
The penny is finally dropping that they're just a franchise, with foreign owners who don't live in the country, a commercial department based 250 miles away, fans who live even further away and a ground filled with tourist whoppers.
At least Everton is one local club that the city of Liverpool can be proud of, that has deep-seated roots in the community and truly represents local people.
The whole thing is hilarious. The squirming on RAWK is brilliant - people torn between knowing that it's wrong, but also using the 'London is the business centre of the U.K.' b.s. excuse.
The gradual realisation that this is another step away from their local roots is great.
Their whole club was built on utter greed - John Houlding demanding more money and breaking an agreement, and Everton taking the high road by refusing to bow to pressure and taking the club elsewhere instead of being held to ransom over the rent.
So they were built on greed, and they've been like it ever since. And now their pursuit of greed is being manifested in the events of recent years. "We'll abandon our local roots because, well, all the money is in London". 2 hours away on a train. Lol.
The penny is finally dropping that they're just a franchise, with foreign owners who don't live in the country, a commercial department based 250 miles away, fans who live even further away and a ground filled with tourist whoppers.
At least Everton is one local club that the city of Liverpool can be proud of, that has deep-seated roots in the community and truly represents local people.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Exactly right. They were, as you say, born from greed. They were always the club of businessmen at the top of the tree, whereas Everton were unsullied by that association until the gimp Moores spread his wings out of Anfield and into Goodison. Liverpool have never, ever been anything other than a club with an eye for the cash. It continues to this day.
These people really haven't got a clue about their own club. It's appalling. The triumph of wishful thinking over historical reality.
Some of the even less philistine members of RAWK will still see this London connection as a positive....they only see one dimension to anything and no layers (a good example being the Suarez/racism saga). That's one of the differences between us and - we see in 3D and are, if not always suspicious, at least always questioning. They hate London/cockneys etc etc yet say "well we should have a place in the capital shouldn't we...that's where business is done" without wondering what FSG are up to and why theyre really doing it. It wouldn't dawn on them even, them living in a virtual type of reality.
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