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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


ElGato said:
Their transfer business has been honking. In the last 7 or 8 years they've recruited really well. Swerved the flavour of the month in favour of players who fit the ethos, style of play, no egos, hard workers and so on. The Jota signing was a perfect example. I remember being sickened when he signed for them - was a proper sign that they knew what they were doing.

This year they've just gone out and signed the shiny things. Frimpong and Kerkez are awful bits of business. I rate Wirtz and Ekitike but they are shoehorning them around Salah (supposedly undroppable, despite being awful) and Isak (had one good season and is made out of tracing paper). They'll be stuck with these lot on massive wages for some time.

They are, despite what they'd kid you on to thinking, not a team of winners. They act as though they are Man City, with a trophy winning ethos cut through the club and prepared to win season after season. In the last 20 years they've really not won many major honours, and if you discount league cups won in the early 2010s and some Charity Shields, it's only really 4 trophies since 2005/6. The serial winners of old (your John Terrys, Rio Ferdinands etc.) talk about preparing for the next season as soon as the last one finishes. They are basking in their own glory and have been complacent this year. Same as the last prem they won.

In addition, they've just handed two massive contracts to VVD and Salah. Both are playing as though they have nothing to gain from playing well, which they don't. Salah has been dreadful which has been a trend for while. He inflates his stats with pens and one unreal game every three, but some games you watch him and he is vacant. VVD is so entitled and is as much as an issue as the rest of the defence, despite what the pundits want you to believe. Who has really been protecting who there? Strolling around the gaff.

And to think they are ready to can Humpty Dumpty. All my RS mates want him out. Fickle fans who think they are entitled to more than they are, but can't explain why

I absolutely love it
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FSG’s recruitment was always overblown.

Their best period under Klopp they had some good value for money signings yes. Robertson, Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, Fabinho, Matip good players who outperformed their fee.

Then they had some players who were good but they paid through the nose for them. Allison (world record fee) Van Dijk (world record fee) Diaz 50 mill, Jota 50 mill, Konate.

Even Klopp also had terrible buys in Nunez, Keita, Thiago (injured and massive wages), Minamino, Solanke, Grujic, Endo, Tsimikas.

But take the Rodgers and Dalglish eras after they first took over: Carrol, Downing, Adam, Allen, Balotelli, Benteke, Can, Markovic, Moreno, Origi, Sakho, Aspas, Borini, Coates, Enrique, Lambert, Clyne, Ings.

How much did that pile of excrement cost? All under FSG.

And now we have Isak 130 mill, Wirtz 115 mill, Ekitike 90 mill, Kerkez, Frimpong. Only Ekitike looks even ok out this lot.


They had one purple patch under Klopp when they recruited well and that was mostly paying big fees for established players. He also used Alexander Arnold, Henderson, and Firmino who Rodgers had bought.

Take out Salah Mane Robertson Fabinho and the whole FSG moneyball brilliant recruitment is a complete and utter myth.

They’ve spent tons of cash and wasted loads of it as well.
 
I have no idea about the RS financial situation but I imagine doing well in this years Champions League and qualifying for next years Champions League would have been budgeted for as a given. Would be nice if they dropped out of this years early and don't qualify for next years. That could make this years splurge on players look even more expensive than it does now.
 

They do have a record of crumbling the next season after having an impressive one.

2008-09 They get 86 points but lose the title to United
2009-10 They finish 7th. Benitez sacked.

2013-14 Within a 'Slip' of the title
2014-15 They finish 6th. Beginning of the end for Rodgers

2019-20 They win the Covid title comfortably
2020-21 Disastrous defence of their title, including the infamous 7-2 defeat at Villa

2021-22 They accumulate 92 points, miss out by a point to City
2022-23 Finish 5th. Probably the beginning of the end for Klopp.

2024-25 Win the title easily.
2025-26 9 defeats in 12. Currently 12th in the league.
 
Saint Domingo said:
FSG’s recruitment was always overblown.

Their best period under Klopp they had some good value for money signings yes. Robertson, Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, Fabinho, Matip good players who outperformed their fee.

Then they had some players who were good but they paid through the nose for them. Allison (world record fee) Van Dijk (world record fee) Diaz 50 mill, Jota 50 mill, Konate.

Even Klopp also had terrible buys in Nunez, Keita, Thiago (injured and massive wages), Minamino, Solanke, Grujic, Endo, Tsimikas.

But take the Rodgers and Dalglish eras after they first took over: Carrol, Downing, Adam, Allen, Balotelli, Benteke, Can, Markovic, Moreno, Origi, Sakho, Aspas, Borini, Coates, Enrique, Lambert, Clyne, Ings.

How much did that pile of excrement cost? All under FSG.

And now we have Isak 130 mill, Wirtz 115 mill, Ekitike 90 mill, Kerkez, Frimpong. Only Ekitike looks even ok out this lot.


They had one purple patch under Klopp when they recruited well and that was mostly paying big fees for established players. He also used Alexander Arnold, Henderson, and Firmino who Rodgers had bought.

Take out Salah Mane Robertson Fabinho and the whole FSG moneyball brilliant recruitment is a complete and utter myth.

They’ve spent tons of cash and wasted loads of it as well.
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Oh don't get me wrong they've spent a lot of money on duds - but that is the market to an extent. Even City have a 1 in 3 success rate. However I have always felt that they've invested in players not stories or egos.

This year however they've just gone for who had a good season last up. Almost as though they are using podcasters 'top ten players in position X' as a transfer strategy, rather than actually recruiting.

It can't be anything other than hubris

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Pabbers said:
They are terrible terrible supporters....bad winners and terrible losers.

Can't handle not winning games at all, imagine they had 30 years of this, Anfield would be half empty, they are the weakest fans around.

We all know why, most of them pick the might reds BECAUSE they win ...so when that does not happen....we get spoiled babies stamping their feet & crying.

And its wonderful viewing.
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I've said many times that a good many of their fans would turn their backs on them if they had a 30yr famine like we've had. That was illustrated in the Hodgson days. For a while the red shirts were noticeable in their absence.
Whereas our fanbase has increased despite winning toss all.
 

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