Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Huyton Layne]

Why do i have more of a right to clean water, an abundance of food and a high standard of health care purely because I was lucky enough to be born in one of the more developed countries in the world? It's messed up that people get treated worse than animals because they lost the birth lottery.

 

[ilikecheese]

I certainly don't think some are. However I'm not naive enough to think there are some within the group who people should be concerned about.

However as I've stated in another thread, this 'caravan' should not be allowed to enter the US let alone any other country unchecked.

There are at least ten US embassies in Mexico alone people from this caravan can apply for asylum at without any fear of being separated from family/children. Why don't they attend here ?

What makes there dream/journey more important than the thousands of refugees/asylum seekers across the world currently being kept in UN camps and others across the world ?

I've got no issue with persons from other countries wanting to emigrate to other countries. Here in Australia much of those that work here illegally do so in fruit farms etc. People moan that they are taking Aussie jobs. Frankly that is bullshit, because if the thousands of welfare dependant people decided to work they could easily get a job on these farms. Australia has created a massive issue where families are being dependant on the state through numerous issues imposee by governments over time.

Back to the point though. I'd be in favour of more people being granted temporary visa whether work related or other to come to the US and be permitted to work legally. Which in turn creates more tax etc for the government and also reduces the fear people have of being deported.

However, I stand by my belief it must be don't legally. I don't agree with allowing people on mass to cross the border into a country unchecked because they claim to be law abiding people seeking a better opportunity.

Because Soros is paying them of course.

 

[verreauxi]

Is it because they're 1000 miles away that you're not worried?

If that's not the case then how many of them would you have at your place should they manage to successfully cross the border ?

Hahahaha.

Wow, the xenophobia runs strong in you. Imagine the horror of having a Honduran or two in your house!

 

[ilikecheese]

Maybe if folks actually knew some refugees they'd change their tune.

Two of my closest friends were Cambodian refugees when they were kids. They still can tell vivid stories of that time in their lives. My buddy Pheak grew up to be a cop in the Bay Area. My other friend Jen (she adopted an American name) has ended up as a senior compliance analyst at a big wealth management firm in San Francisco.

Those kids came from a state of squalor to end up being great Americans. The American dream is real for so many people. Our laws are the problem. Conservative laws meant to limit immigration as much as possible.

Another friend of mine is an immigration attorney who happens to call Google as her client. It's so sad how difficult it is for her to get qualified, educated folks into the country legally because conservatives have for decades made it harder and harder because...fear. Conservatives have the fear card and play it at every opportunity.

 

[toffy]

Hahahaha.

Wow, the xenophobia runs strong in you. Imagine the horror of having a Honduran or two in your house!

What ridiculous typical response. Didn't expect anything less from you.

How many from the caravan are you putting up at your place ?

Or how many of those you've entered the US without being checked have you had stay at your place ?

 

[toffy]

Maybe if folks actually knew some refugees they'd change their tune.

Two of my closest friends were Cambodian refugees when they were kids. They still can tell vivid stories of that time in their lives. My buddy Pheak grew up to be a cop in the Bay Area. My other friend Jen (she adopted an American name) has ended up as a senior compliance analyst at a big wealth management firm in San Francisco.

Those kids came from a state of squalor to end up being great Americans. The American dream is real for so many people. Our laws are the problem. Conservative laws meant to limit immigration as much as possible.

Another friend of mine is an immigration attorney who happens to call Google as her client. It's so sad how difficult it is for her to get qualified, educated folks into the country legally because conservatives have for decades made it harder and harder because...fear. Conservatives have the fear card and play it at every opportunity.

I know plenty of refugees, including my best mate from Vietnam. Similar story to the Cambodian friends of yours.

However there still is the difference between legal and illegal immigration.

I've never said I'm against immigration, I just believe it should he done lawfully and with proper checks to ensure each and every person is who they say they are.

 

[SteveSC]

I know plenty of refugees, including my best mate from Vietnam. Similar story to the Cambodian friends of yours.

However there still is the difference between legal and illegal immigration.

I've never said I'm against immigration, I just believe it should he done lawfully and with proper checks to ensure each and every person is who they say they are.

I doubt you do. If you did you would have more sympathy and realise that some of the caravan may actually have a good case to be refugees and gain legal entry to the US. Given that your "friends" must have told you how tough their lives were and how tough it was for them to get refugee status in Australia surely you might see that some of these may have an actual case. Do you know anything about Honduras? Do you know how gang ravaged it has become? Many Hondurans have been given refugee status in the United States in the last 15 years.

Hey i guess its convenient that you just happen to know many then right? So you understand the refugees plight right?

But you seemingly know all of the caravan are simply illegal and have no case. You have made up your mind already. As always not surprising for an Australian to consider them all illegal and not worthy before they reach the port of entry. given your own country's track record of it.

How narrow minded and possibly xenophobic

I am certainly not for letting everyone enter the US illegally given how hard it was for me to gain legal entry but at the same time i'd rather wait until they get here and state their case before being dismissive of them.

 

[toffy]

I doubt you do. If you did you would have more sympathy and realise that some of the caravan may actually have a good case to be refugees and gain legal entry to the US. Given that your "friends" must have told you how tough their lives were and how tough it was for them to get refugee status in Australia surely you might see that some of these may have an actual case. Do you know anything about Honduras? Do you know how gang ravaged it has become? Many Hondurans have been given refugee status in the United States in the last 15 years.

Hey i guess its convenient that you just happen to know many then right? So you understand the refugees plight right?

But you seemingly know all of the caravan are simply illegal and have no case. You have made up your mind already. As always not surprising for an Australian to consider them all illegal and not worthy before they reach the port of entry. given your own country's track record of it.

How narrow minded and possibly xenophobic

I am certainly not for letting everyone enter the US illegally given how hard it was for me to gain legal entry but at the same time i'd rather wait until they get here and state their case before being dismissive of them.

Didn't take long for you to get stuck in.

Your full of assumptions about me and everyone that presents an opinion you don't like and/or agree with.

Read over my posts again and point out where I've said they're all illegal or without a valid reason for seeking asylum. I've clearly stated otherwise. Q

 

[SteveSC]

Didn't take long for you to get stuck in.

Your full of assumptions about me and everyone that presents an opinion you don't like and/or agree with.

Read over my posts again and point out where I've said they're all illegal or without a valid reason for seeking asylum. I've clearly stated otherwise. Q

Err you will see i also disagree with illegal immigration so i technically did not disagree with you.

I read your original post and yet again you are predictable with your rehashed nonsense from fox news and the alt right media.

The more you post the more ridiculous you sound and the more you sound xenophobic. It's not the first time. The last time it was the Mexicans that you held contempt for.

But sure being 7000 miles away gives you the expertise right? Are you going to tell me again how i know nothing nor do the other people living here compared to your expertise

You are an utter sham of a person who signs on every 10 or 15 days to literally disagree with progressive lefty types who post in here and yet expect to be taken seriously.

Tell us how Everton are doing again?

 

[Prevenger17]

As always not surprising for an Australian to consider them all illegal and not worthy before they reach the port of entry.

Crikey

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Nice to see Trump’s rhetoric about the caravan working.

The caravans are not an unusual occurrence, Trump has just decided to weaponise this one because it’s arriving just ahead of the midterms.

Also, based on when they’ve formed previously, they have nothing to do with illegal immigration - they typically come in at ports of entry and lodge asylum claims. THIS IS NOT ILLEGAL.

 

[verreauxi]

What ridiculous typical response. Didn't expect anything less from you.

How many from the caravan are you putting up at your place ?

Or how many of those you've entered the US without being checked have you had stay at your place ?

I’m certain the ridiculousness started when you asked LL “how many would you have at your place” as if that is a relevant and reasonable question. Did you learn that one from Twitter.

 

[Tommy Chong]

Maybe if folks actually knew some refugees they'd change their tune.

Two of my closest friends were Cambodian refugees when they were kids. They still can tell vivid stories of that time in their lives. My buddy Pheak grew up to be a cop in the Bay Area. My other friend Jen (she adopted an American name) has ended up as a senior compliance analyst at a big wealth management firm in San Francisco.

Those kids came from a state of squalor to end up being great Americans. The American dream is real for so many people. Our laws are the problem. Conservative laws meant to limit immigration as much as possible.

Another friend of mine is an immigration attorney who happens to call Google as her client. It's so sad how difficult it is for her to get qualified, educated folks into the country legally because conservatives have for decades made it harder and harder because...fear. Conservatives have the fear card and play it at every opportunity.

Good post mate.

I don't know if it's a conservative thing, or maybe it's just me... But is it really so hard to exercise a little bit of empathy in your heart?!?

Like @Bruce Wayne stated somewhere up there: They're human beings for goodness sake.

Conservatives immediately jump to using xenophobia and fear to justify their actions.

I don't know mate... Maybe I'm just a soft tree hugging hippy who can't see the big picture, but I really don't understand why there has to be so much hate and ugliness.

If people like Trump could just take a second to try and understand what it's like to walk a mile in someone else's shoes, then the world be exponentially more of a better place.

But then again, if you also understand that someone who has narcissistic personality disorder, by definition, they are physically and mentally incapable of feeling and expressing true empathy... Then you can understand the behavior behind Trump's actions a little bit more.

 

[verreauxi]

I'm not buying into Trump's racist scapegoating, I want you to know that some of my best friends are unknown Middle Easterners.

 

[longers]

How many from the caravan are you putting up at your place ?

Or how many of those you've entered the US without being checked have you had stay at your place ?

This is the single most stupid arguement anti immigration people come out with, relentless levels of stupidity.