Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Personally would think it would be an inappropriate question to ask Tiffany.

However Ivanka needs to decide if she is a non political family member or such an important member of the Trump administration that she can brief our allies on sanctions and quit expecting to get the best of both worlds.
This reminds me of when you said "I think it's pretty unreasonable to expect me to influence my father". YOUR JOB TITLE IS ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT FFS.
 
It seems clear that the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Federal Security Service have those tapes of prostitutes peeing on Trump. Because this is exactly what these agencies do, they blackmail their political allies to keep them in check, and they blackmail their enemies. And this is why Trump is sitting on his hands.

Once Russia finds a suitable replacement for Trump, we'll all be blessed with seeing Mr. Christian Values get peed on by a hooker.
 

Over a year into Trump's presidency and we still don't have an ambassador to South Korea and now losing top negotiator with North Korea. The lack of diplomacy resources in the region i find a wee bit concerning.


I think it is brilliant.

South Koreans have been under the grip of the States for a long time - still have operational control of their military! - and it has been great to see the Blue House defying Pence and co during the Winter Olympics and opening more channels between North and South. The US will have been livid that Kim Jong Un's sister offer of a meeting between her brother and the SK president was accepted.
 
Far too early to make a judgement on that, but the rate at which Democrats are flipping districts that Trump carried by wide margins is certainly cause for optimism.

The level of engagement on the left (and particularly amongst younger voters) is higher than it's been since 2008. If that can be maintained til 2020 (hopefully boosted by a very successful midterms this November) Trump will be up against it.

If it fades by then, then yeah there's a strong likelihood of re-election. Thankfully Trump and the rest of the GOP seem to find almost daily ways to outrage and disgust huge swathes of people, which should theoretically ensure people remain very invested in booting as many of them out as possible.

The problem (for Democrats) - Who can they nominate that won't push people toward Trump?
 
The problem (for Democrats) - Who can they nominate that won't push people toward Trump?
I think that's the wrong question.

I think the question is: Who can the Democrats nominate that can unify enough of the political left and center to offset what I see will be the Trump coalition in 2020? I think there are easily enough votes and electoral college votes to defeat Trump, if they will come together to do so.

The Trump coalition that I see consists of die-hard Trump supporters and Republicans who see benefits from his actions as President even if they have to hold their noses to vote for him. Some of those actions are his appointment of judges and probably one or two more Supreme Court Justices, his hands-off approach to the decimation of professionalism in executive agencies and his reduction of the US's role in the world, commensurate with an isolationist approach to the world.

I am not sure I see a Democrat nationally visible at the moment to make that happen. Kamala Harris appears to be very bright and attractive as a candidate, but can she build a national awareness that's sufficient to win the electoral college? Some of those who have expressed interest, such as Julian Castro, Eric Garcetti, Martin O'Malley and Joe Biden all are potentially interesting but have to work very hard to build a profile or to change their existing profile to have a chance, I think. Any of these candidates will have to win over several constituent groups to have a chance to beat the Trump coalition I described above.

Remeber, it's the electoral college that has to be won.
 
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I think that's the wrong question.

I think the question is: Who can the Democrats nominate that can unify enough of the political left and center to offset what I see will be the Trump coalition in 2020? I think there are easily enough votes and electoral college votes to defeat Trump, if they will come together to do so.

The Trump coalition that I see consists of die-hard Trump supporters and Republicans who see benefits from his actions as President even if they have to hold their noses to vote for him. Some of those actions are his appointment of judges and probably one or two more Supreme Court Justices, his hands-off approach to the decimation of professionalism in executive agencies and his reduction of the US's role in the world, commensurate with an isolationist approach to the world.

I am not sure I see a Democrat nationally visible at the moment to make that happen. Kamala Harris appears to be very bright and attractive as a candidate, but can she build a national awareness that's sufficient to win the electoral college? Some of those who have expressed interest, such as Julian Castro, Eric Garcetti, Martin O'Malley and Joe Biden all are potentially interesting but have to work very hard to build a profile or to change their existing profile to have a chance, I think. Any of these candidates will have to win over several constituent groups to have a chance to beat the Trump coalition I described above.

Remeber, it's the electoral college that has to be won.

Fair enough, but there is some overlap in the questions, I think. Harris, Castro, Warren, etc. are all of the mold that will give centrists pause. I don't think any of them could win a national election today against Trump. I think O'Malley is actually viable in 2020, in a limited set of circumstances, but I think the inability to get off the ground for 2016 will hurt. Biden would have beaten Trump in 2020, and remains formidable in my opinion, but I'm not sure he can unite the left. Garcetti is the most likely to catch fire, I think, but that needs to start sooner than later and he needs to avoid the temptation to start scrapping with Trump in the early going.
 
The problem (for Democrats) - Who can they nominate that won't push people toward Trump?

Cory Booker...he won't unite the far-left but he's centrist enough and might even attract some libertarians. He's obviously not going to win any votes from Trump's far-right white nationalist support base. Not gonna see "Hail Booker" with Nazi salutes from them if he's elected.
 
Cory Booker...he won't unite the far-left but he's centrist enough and might even attract some libertarians. He's obviously not going to win any votes from Trump's far-right white nationalist support base. Not gonna see "Hail Booker" with Nazi salutes from them if he's elected.

Booker is a little bit crazy, but I would be interested to see how he handled a national campaign. His profile seems to have diminished some (for a while it seemed he was hitting the Sunday morning circuit hard), but he's personable and interesting enough that he would seemingly have an easier time building it up again.
 
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