Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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I know this is a bit tardy but I did want to respond.
Personally I think privatized health care is the stupidist system of care that favors the haves and punishes the have nots. For profit health care is just another way this country fails the working class among many others. It's sad that we remain the only Western democracy that doesn't provide universal healthcare. How rural America has been duped into thinking this is a bad thing for them is yet another in a series of con jobs Republicans have sold them on.
So in answer 1 you championed for individual rights and against big government, but here you are contradicting yourself. You think a woman's right to choose what happens to her body should be legislated by big government. Do you see the hypocrisy? Now if you want to go down the road that life begins at conception then we have a whole other can of worms to discuss.
For me you are being wilfully obtuse as to why those tax breaks are a slap in your face as well as mine. The President of the United States intentionally just gave himself a massive tax cut. Sure would be nice if he'd show us a return BTW.
Do you remember when Fox News lost their head because Obama got Dijon mustard on a burger and also wore a brown suit?
If you think MSNBC and Fox News are equal meh...that might be fair (although I tend to not agree). That said there is nothing equivalent to conservative talk radio. Please listen to it. It is filled with lies, half truths, fear, and bigotry. Furthermore with regards to Fox vs MSNBC...MSNBC has never been used as essentially a state run propaganda machine like Fox currently is.
Personally I think privatized health care is the stupidist system of care that favors the haves and punishes the have nots. For profit health care is just another way this country fails the working class among many others. It's sad that we remain the only Western democracy that doesn't provide universal healthcare. How rural America has been duped into thinking this is a bad thing for them is yet another in a series of con jobs Republicans have sold them on.
So in answer 1 you championed for individual rights and against big government, but here you are contradicting yourself. You think a woman's right to choose what happens to her body should be legislated by big government. Do you see the hypocrisy? Now if you want to go down the road that life begins at conception then we have a whole other can of worms to discuss.
For me you are being wilfully obtuse as to why those tax breaks are a slap in your face as well as mine. The President of the United States intentionally just gave himself a massive tax cut. Sure would be nice if he'd show us a return BTW.
Do you remember when Fox News lost their head because Obama got Dijon mustard on a burger and also wore a brown suit?
If you think MSNBC and Fox News are equal meh...that might be fair (although I tend to not agree). That said there is nothing equivalent to conservative talk radio. Please listen to it. It is filled with lies, half truths, fear, and bigotry. Furthermore with regards to Fox vs MSNBC...MSNBC has never been used as essentially a state run propaganda machine like Fox currently is.
I want to be shocked at the fact Farage has been named in this sworn testimony but I'm not.
Interested in everyone's thoughts on the testimony from Simpson, particularly the funding of the dossier
1) People weren't dying on the streets before ACA and people aren't saving their retirements from medical spending now (due to the ACA). We do provide universal healthcare, in large part. There is really no excuse for an individual not to find access to care in America. Inefficient? Sure. But you're touting a government run plan in lieu of that? I would just for once like to hear a proponent go "yeah, I acknowledge that pretty much every other USG-run establishment is incredibly bloated and ends up performing worse than the private sector, but here are the ways I propose not having that happen with healthcare." Never happens.
2) I don't see it as a contradiction and I expect you know why. I don't see termination of another life as something within the purview of individual liberty. But in truth it doesn't matter because I'm not over here advocating for abortion bans, although I understand and sympathize with those who do. But I would put the same to you - if you're pro-choice on a liberty basis, why does that liberty stop when it comes to economics, healthcare, etc.?
3) Again, I think you're being willfully obtuse here. Lefty journalists literally freaked the hell out this week when a doctor didn't say Trump was unfit. I think Fox News is nuts, or at least portions of Fox News (Hannity, the morning show, etc.). But Joy Reid this week claimed that conservatives are ok with nuclear war because it will hurt inner cities. She later, quietly, retracted that. The New York Times ed board blamed the Orlando shooting on conservative vitriol. The same ed board claimed the day after a crazy leftist tried to assassinate a bunch of Republican congressmen that the Tea Party was responsible for the Giffords shooting. Not some rogue opinion writer, the ed board for the most foremost newspaper in America printed a long-debunked conspiracy theory in the aftermath of an assassination attempt on Republicans! You can't honestly tell me the right doesn't have a legitimate point to argue here.
And sure, if you want to point me to Hannity and Pizzagate and Seth whatshisname, I agree, they're crazy too. But I'm willing to acknowledge the nutjobs on the right, but I rarely hear people on the left who are willing to acknowledge that prominent, mainstream liberal media organizations very regularly engage in spreading misleading or false information.
I err what err, nah I must be misreading or misunderstanding this fool above. I'm gonna go read about Everton.
Don't be snide, I'm right here sport.
In fairness pettifogger, I got as far as 'people weren't dying on the streets before the ACA' and stopped. A lack of health insurance or under insurance was the leading cause of bankruptcy in this country. You're probably a christian libertarian so there's not much point in all of this.
But that's the thing. So leftist media as you call them have lied from time to time or exaggerated certain stories. But that's from time to time. Fox purposely (as does right media in general) hires overly dramatic guys and girls who don't care for the truth. The whole point of them is to entertain and suit their agenda all of the time.
Have you sat and watched fox news? From early morning to late in the evening it's just hate and conspiracies.
At least the centrist and leftist media have time for actual stories and opinions and most importantly they hire the opposition for their shows.
Not that i am a big fan of MSNBC you have to give them credit with the hiring of right leaning people for their opinions etc...
Do they lie? Yes some of the time all journalists do, but no where near as much and as dramatically as fox and not with as much venom and hate.
To me the only smartest thing has done has convince people on the fake media narrative. It has served his purpose brilliantly.
He has managed to make his base think everything the media does, well only the centrist and left media that is is fake. And why? Because he knew what would come from them. He knew what real stories they could dig up on him and what dirt they might find.
It served a purpose.
Now the only fools are those that believe him and can't see what a mouthpiece fox has become to serve that narrative on a platter for him.
All the while the rest of the media continue to try do their job. I am not surprised if the centrist and left media get it wrong from time to time and it can be embarrassing for them but to say they are the same as fox nah that's just naive and bs quite frankly.
1. No that is a blatant lie. Do you understand what that means? Try research Canada, the UK and Australia and any other country that has it. You will see you are way off with that assessment.
Some states before ACA allowed insurance companies and still do fleece their people for monthly premiums. So much so it was putting people off.
Out of pocket expenses were getting higher and coverage not as good.
2. What are you on a about? In some states its a racket and you were subjected to one or two companies only and they were normally in cahoots with each other. When the ACA came about they were deeply upset about it knowing it would hurt their profits and so did their best to blame ACA and derail it and refuse to take part.
Ok not just me then.
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He met with Assange last year.
So not surprised at all.
Muellers gonna get ya....maybe.
This is a strange quote. Can you unpack this. Do you mean someone can go to the Emergency room to find healthcare?
Dumb ignorant narcissistic pisshead:
I'm not sure why, considering my statement is accurate. I'm not sure what your political perspective is, but if it involves social democracy or the like, then sure, there probably isn't much ground to be gained.
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