Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[abelard]

I guess that's a nub of it - if we are to believe what is in the book. I'd be a bit wary of something so obviously pandering to everyone's prejudices of how bad Trump is. I mean if anyone is deserving of a hatchet job on their professional life then it's probably Trump, but it will backfire if it's just the fantasy projections of someone eavesdropping at a distance in the West Wing. That Tony Blair piece quoted upthread, for example, sounds like obvious bollox and just gives Blair the opportunity to flay it into the weeds.

Yep.

It doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know, and it won't change anyone's mind. It's just more gossip for the #resistance to cackle over until some newer comes along to distract their attention.

It's interesting how irrelevant Trump has become to his own Presidency. He is clearly not interested or even mentally capable of affecting policy. He's the jester of his own court. And barring his occasional spasms, the real power mostly lies elsewhere.

There is a long precedent for this sort of thing though - European states have been nominally helmed for decades at a time by fools, simpletons, inbred children, the senile, or the mentally ill. No matter - this is what regencies are for.

In this case, we have in effect the Mercer/Koch Regency, administered by doting manservants Ryan, McConnell et al.

Meanwhile, this is Trump:

 

[SteveSC]

Does anyone else think that Trump knew about this whole book thing? And really them fighting now is all one ruse?

It's odd that Bannon still supported Trump even after a heated firing. In fact he kept telling anyone that would listen that he was a great man and they should be thankful of that etc....

Then he goes on the attack.

Think about it this way centrist and leftist media may now want to listen to Bannon if it has to do with the book and he may draw support from the naive Trump haters.

 

[Ruairi77]

Does anyone else think that Trump knew about this whole book thing? And really them fighting now is all one ruse?

It's odd that Bannon still supported Trump even after a heated firing. In fact he kept telling anyone that would listen that he was a great man and they should be thankful of that etc....

Then he goes on the attack.

Think about it this way centrist and leftist media may now want to listen to Bannon if it has to do with the book and he may draw support from the naive Trump haters.

I’m still in the ‘they’re all winging it’ camp, which is frightening. The Dow just passed 25k so no one is pulling the plug any time soon.

 

[IV(AC)]

Vice excerpts from Wolffe
You can’t make this stuff up

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article...bout-trumps-white-house?utm_source=vicenewsfb

 

[longers]

Except you can. I’m sure some of it will be accurate but there is no way I’m treating all the claims in it as fact... way too much money to be made from a book like this. You could literally print anything and have millions just blindly believe it because of who the target is. Reeks of low quality journalism looking to make a quick buck.

 

[verreauxi]

Except you can. I’m sure some of it will be accurate but there is no way I’m treating all the claims in it as fact... way too much money to be made from a book like this. You could literally print anything and have millions just blindly believe it because of who the target is. Reeks of low quality journalism looking to make a quick buck.

But why would Trump be launching legal moves to stop its publication? And why make staff sign a non-disparagement agreement? And why so much turnover in Whitehouse staff? And why so many leaks? And why an FBI investigation? And why the order from Trump to outright lie about inauguration crowds?

I could go on and on...

Trump isn’t normal nor is his presidency. And the shameful pall that reigns over his administration can’t be attributed to made-up concepts such as “deep state” or “fake news” or even real ones such as tabloid journalism. We know this because Trump has a track record—an easily verifiable one—of making crass, inane, and hyperbolic statements. And, of course, he is also lying on-record on a daily basis.

I’m sure FauxNews will write it off as a hit-piece, but they’ll have to overlook—as they always do—some pretty obvious circumstantial evidence.

 

[longers]

But why would Trump be launching legal moves to stop its publication?

Because as I said some of it will probably be accurate. That doesn’t mean every word in it is accurate though. Half the info is supposedly from unnamed sources. They could print all kinds of stuff and people will believe it just because they want to. I never trust books where it’s all “an insider told us”... it reminds me of the jarg football articles you see every day.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Because as I said some of it will probably be accurate. That doesn’t mean every word in it is accurate though. Half the info is supposedly from unnamed sources. They could print all kinds of stuff and people will believe it just because they want to. I never trust books where it’s all “an insider told us”... it reminds me of the jarg football articles you see every day.

And yet nearly all whistleblowing is in essence, an unattributed source. The bloke writing it will know whether the source is real or not, so the question is less about the source and how trustworthy you find the writer. I mean I'd imagine anyone putting their name to an accusation about Trump will have a short lived career in his government, especially given his obvious sensitivity to any kind of criticism.

 

[longers]

And yet nearly all whistleblowing is in essence, an unattributed source. The bloke writing it will know whether the source is real or not, so the question is less about the source and how trustworthy you find the writer. I mean I'd imagine anyone putting their name to an accusation about Trump will have a short lived career in his government, especially given his obvious sensitivity to any kind of criticism.

True, people have already starting poking holes in some of the books claims though such as the one about Trump not knowing who John Boehner is despite Trump playing golf with him a few times.

Two cited sources have already come out and said the quotes attributed to them were false. Tony Blair has also called the section about him completely fabricated as well, not that I particularly trust blairs words.

The book just reeks of someone trying to cash in, put in some truths and pad it out with bs. People in general are to eager to believe literally everything they hear about Trump in the media.

 

[toffy]

The book is about as truthful as the Trump dossier is.

 

[McBain]

The book is about as truthful as the Trump dossier is.

Our man in the White House. Which parts aren't true mate?

This is a good article about the dossier.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...eele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html

 

[Tubey]

That book will be on the money. If you're waiting for a fully sourced tell-all book with nothing but objective facts stated plainly in a professional, bland manner, you'll never get it.

If the book was manifestly false, they'd pick instances that are easy to prove incorrect and do so. They haven't, because the book is true.

Yes, it will be exaggerated for the purpose of reader entertainment, with the language designed to be salacious at every turn for that reason, but the underlying information will be in essence correct.

And let's face it, none of it is a surprise. A lot of us were guessing last year that Trump actually didn't want to win. We all know that his 'relationship' with Melania is the most obvious Russian bride sham going. He's been pictured eating fast food repeatedly. And we all know he's a mentally deranged narcissist.

 

[SteveSC]

The book is about as truthful as the Trump dossier is.

But your not a Trump supporter right? Haha!! You just think people give him an unfair shake right? Haha!!

Bannon was there everyday up until he got fired. He was privy to a lot of first hand dealings no matter how Trump pretends he wasn't important and involved, we all know that is not the case

Bannon does not care who he tramples on if it serves his purpose. There is certainly no reason for him to make it up. Stretch it a little maybe.

Trump is a drama queen and his cabinet is a mess. How many have come and gone? How many have been fired? It is easy pickings for anyone who gets fired or decides to turn on him and them to do a tell all.

If the way he acts in public and on twitter is anything to go by then the information given is certainly by no means lies and like @Tubey said no surprise.

Now i don't trust Bannons motives as he is always spinning his wheels and has an agenda in the works at all times but still this is a guy who was probably closest to Trump

Trump spent many an interview or podium speech fawning over him so we know he was close and involved

 

[Ruairi77]

Yep.

It doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know, and it won't change anyone's mind. It's just more gossip for the #resistance to cackle over until some newer comes along to distract their attention.

what? This book quotes Bannon calling Trump Jnr. treasonous, it has led to a public falling out between the president and his former chief aide. Hardly gossip for the #resistance to cackle over.

 

[verreauxi]

The book is about as truthful as the Trump dossier is.

What do you make of the "Grab em by the pu$$y" quotes from Trump? Are those fake or real?