Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[verreauxi]

Same old argument.

So what. This is the Current Affairs forum.

So what? Because it shows that you are here not in the spirit of joining the GOT community in terms of supporting a team you claim to care about, but rather you just want to push your pro-Trump opinions. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you have nothing to contribute to other parts of this website, it seems you picked a very strange place to argue politics (a sub-sub-forum of a website devoted to a professional football team).

 

[Barkman]

This Moore bloke.

He is going to be elected, isn't he?

And IMO that will be way more depressing than when Trump was elected.

You would think that after a year of his car crash presidency and reality show White House voters would want to be sending signals that they hate the way he has created so much division and hatred in their country and humiliating his endorsed candidate at the polls is a perfect opportunity to send them.

Trump has sadly galvanised idiots and anybody left of Bannon is inherently a communist. So yeah, Moore will likely be elected because apparently sanity and facts are now something to contest and defy.

 

[Barkman]

I’d also like to add the GOPs enabling of this behaviour to thinly veil the now blatant corruption for their benefactors is almost as galling to me.

 

[mezzrow]

As I suspected, any GOP winner would be subjected to the full Scott Walker treatment (see Wisconsin state politics) from the DC establishment, but that coupled with their visceral distaste for Trump the man (much of which I share) has thrown things into more vivid relief than I thought possible. Welcome to the new Watergate era, for those who missed it the first time. The attacks will continue until Trump is gone or his opponents are defeated and leave in disgrace.

Your guess as to the outcome is as good as mine.

The above is from March 2017 - I have been talking about the Walker "John Doe" investigation since 2014, and we are just now getting the details. This is what I voted against when I voted for Trump. This is KGBesque in its implications, and is consistent with the kind of behind the scenes data that is emerging regarding the ongoing Mueller investigations. Those torpedoes keep tracking back to source, time after time.

For this, the perps will get "disciplinary action and no charges." I'm sure they would offer the same leniency to their GOP targets. /sarc

In an 88-page report, Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel lays bare the actions of staff at the former Government Accountability Board as they dug into what is described as a previously unknown, secret “John Doe III” investigation into several GOP officials and staffers who were [absolved of the suspicion that they] campaign[ed] out of taxpayer-funded offices….

[T]he report criticizes the “breathtaking” sweep of the three John Doe investigations, which included 218 warrants and subpoenas. DOJ found the John Doe investigators obtained and categorized several private emails unrelated to campaigns, including 150 personal emails between Sen. Leah Vukmir and her daughter that included health information, and placed them in a folder labeled “Opposition Research” — a term that refers to political dirt collected on opponents....

Schimel concluded the GAB staff didn’t act in “a detached and professional manner” and that it was reasonable to infer “they were on a mission to bring down the Walker campaign and the Governor himself.” He pointed to a November 2013 email in which [former GAB lawyer Shane] Falk encouraged Schmitz, who was having doubts about the GAB’s legal theory, to “stay strong.”

“Remember, in brief, this was a bastardization of politics and our state is being run by corporations and billionaires,” Falk wrote. “This isn’t democracy to say the least, but due to how they do this dark money, the populace never gets to know. The cynic in me says the sheeple would still follow the propaganda even if they knew, but at least it would all be out there so that the influences on our politicians is clearly known.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/12/wisconsin-department-of-justice-finds_8.html

Those 6 AM SWAT team raids against their opponents are guaranteed to win hearts and minds for more governmental power and authority, or maybe turn the state to vote for Trump, instead. The investigation was set up to find process crimes of any campaign activity by Walker supporters, as small as answering a question or taking a phone call, from any taxpayer-funded office. They would comb through records obtained from seized computers (seized at break of dawn via police raid, while informing the "raidee" that they could not tell anyone of this under force of law of the "John Doe" statutes of the state of Wisconsin)

What did those "raidees" say when the authorities rousted them from their beds?

"Don't shoot my dog, please, don't shoot my dog."

This is the institutional Democratic party at work within the system prior to 2016, when their power was threatened. This is how you got Trump.

 

[Barkman]

The above is from March 2017 - I have been talking about the Walker "John Doe" investigation since 2014, and we are just now getting the details. This is what I voted against when I voted for Trump. This is KGBesque in its implications, and is consistent with the kind of behind the scenes data that is emerging regarding the ongoing Mueller investigations. Those torpedoes keep tracking back to source, time after time.

For this, the perps will get "disciplinary action and no charges." I'm sure they would offer the same leniency to their GOP targets. /sarc

In an 88-page report, Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel lays bare the actions of staff at the former Government Accountability Board as they dug into what is described as a previously unknown, secret “John Doe III” investigation into several GOP officials and staffers who were [absolved of the suspicion that they] campaign[ed] out of taxpayer-funded offices….

[T]he report criticizes the “breathtaking” sweep of the three John Doe investigations, which included 218 warrants and subpoenas. DOJ found the John Doe investigators obtained and categorized several private emails unrelated to campaigns, including 150 personal emails between Sen. Leah Vukmir and her daughter that included health information, and placed them in a folder labeled “Opposition Research” — a term that refers to political dirt collected on opponents....

Schimel concluded the GAB staff didn’t act in “a detached and professional manner” and that it was reasonable to infer “they were on a mission to bring down the Walker campaign and the Governor himself.” He pointed to a November 2013 email in which [former GAB lawyer Shane] Falk encouraged Schmitz, who was having doubts about the GAB’s legal theory, to “stay strong.”

“Remember, in brief, this was a bastardization of politics and our state is being run by corporations and billionaires,” Falk wrote. “This isn’t democracy to say the least, but due to how they do this dark money, the populace never gets to know. The cynic in me says the sheeple would still follow the propaganda even if they knew, but at least it would all be out there so that the influences on our politicians is clearly known.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/12/wisconsin-department-of-justice-finds_8.html

Those 6 AM SWAT team raids against their opponents are guaranteed to win hearts and minds for more governmental power and authority, or maybe turn the state to vote for Trump, instead. The investigation was set up to find process crimes of any campaign activity by Walker supporters, as small as answering a question or taking a phone call, from any taxpayer-funded office. They would comb through records obtained from seized computers (seized at break of dawn via police raid, while informing the "raidee" that they could not tell anyone of this under force of law of the "John Doe" statutes of the state of Wisconsin)

What did those "raidees" say when the authorities rousted them from their beds?

"Don't shoot my dog, please, don't shoot my dog."

This is the institutional Democratic party at work within the system prior to 2016, when their power was threatened. This is how you got Trump.

Whilst not great is it better than now?

 

[ilikecheese]

The above is from March 2017 - I have been talking about the Walker "John Doe" investigation since 2014, and we are just now getting the details. This is what I voted against when I voted for Trump. This is KGBesque in its implications, and is consistent with the kind of behind the scenes data that is emerging regarding the ongoing Mueller investigations. Those torpedoes keep tracking back to source, time after time.

For this, the perps will get "disciplinary action and no charges." I'm sure they would offer the same leniency to their GOP targets. /sarc

In an 88-page report, Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel lays bare the actions of staff at the former Government Accountability Board as they dug into what is described as a previously unknown, secret “John Doe III” investigation into several GOP officials and staffers who were [absolved of the suspicion that they] campaign[ed] out of taxpayer-funded offices….

[T]he report criticizes the “breathtaking” sweep of the three John Doe investigations, which included 218 warrants and subpoenas. DOJ found the John Doe investigators obtained and categorized several private emails unrelated to campaigns, including 150 personal emails between Sen. Leah Vukmir and her daughter that included health information, and placed them in a folder labeled “Opposition Research” — a term that refers to political dirt collected on opponents....

Schimel concluded the GAB staff didn’t act in “a detached and professional manner” and that it was reasonable to infer “they were on a mission to bring down the Walker campaign and the Governor himself.” He pointed to a November 2013 email in which [former GAB lawyer Shane] Falk encouraged Schmitz, who was having doubts about the GAB’s legal theory, to “stay strong.”

“Remember, in brief, this was a bastardization of politics and our state is being run by corporations and billionaires,” Falk wrote. “This isn’t democracy to say the least, but due to how they do this dark money, the populace never gets to know. The cynic in me says the sheeple would still follow the propaganda even if they knew, but at least it would all be out there so that the influences on our politicians is clearly known.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/12/wisconsin-department-of-justice-finds_8.html

Those 6 AM SWAT team raids against their opponents are guaranteed to win hearts and minds for more governmental power and authority, or maybe turn the state to vote for Trump, instead. The investigation was set up to find process crimes of any campaign activity by Walker supporters, as small as answering a question or taking a phone call, from any taxpayer-funded office. They would comb through records obtained from seized computers (seized at break of dawn via police raid, while informing the "raidee" that they could not tell anyone of this under force of law of the "John Doe" statutes of the state of Wisconsin)

What did those "raidees" say when the authorities rousted them from their beds?

"Don't shoot my dog, please, don't shoot my dog."

This is the institutional Democratic party at work within the system prior to 2016, when their power was threatened. This is how you got Trump.

Guess this is why Trump feels the need to have his own secret private spies to battle the right wing perceived 'deep state'.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

This Moore bloke.

He is going to be elected, isn't he?

And IMO that will be way more depressing than when Trump was elected.

You would think that after a year of his car crash presidency and reality show White House voters would want to be sending signals that they hate the way he has created so much division and hatred in their country and humiliating his endorsed candidate at the polls is a perfect opportunity to send them.

I have to say I agree with this. When Trump was elected, I guess an argument could be made it was more people seeking change than anything else - for example, there were a number of Bernie supporters that voted for Trump in the election (as crazy as that is to get your head around).

With the Moore situation, it would show that partisan politics is all that matters any more, even if it's voting for someone with his political/judicial history (not to mention what his actual politics are now, mind). It defies logic.

One of my friends is a Yankee born and bred (in Pgh) lawyer in Birmingham, and he's involved in the Jones election effort - he's cautiously optimistic that he actually has a chance there - he says even Alabamans as a whole aren't crazy enough to vote in Moore. I'm not so optimistic. We shall see.

 

[SteveSC]

That's not what he said though. He was not referring to America last being great during slavery times.

Shaun King has his own agenda in wanting people to believe that

Most people that are awake at 5:38am have better things to do than barrage a forum for 30 mins. Hows that east coast time working out for you?

Let me guess you are back in Europe or conveniently you work at 5am?

Also i notice now your profile is now private the Mark of a troll right there or someone with an agenda. Don't want people searching through your posts anymore picking your story apart huh?

 

[mezzrow]

Whilst not great is it better than now?

Guess this is why Trump feels the need to have his own secret private spies to battle the right wing perceived 'deep state'.

Only time will tell. We'll never know until it is "old news".

 

[Ruairi77]

All Trump's fault. Only an issue since he became president. Spare me. Sounds a lot like fear mongering.

I'm guessing plenty of tourists to Cape Cod were from those countries on the travel ban.

http://www.whycapecod.org/tourism-statistics.html

Hardly a reduction in tourist numbers.

Course don't get cancelled because one professor isn't available.

California's had a history of fires. To say peo people's hpmes being burnt down is due to trump and his government is ludicrous. Are the previous administrations responsible for the damage to homes etc during their terms ?

I don't quite get your point on the GE river pollution. Didn't that occur decades ago and more recently wildlife (humpback whales) have been sighted ?

Undocumented/illegals. I understand the situation of many and understand there is often a place in the US for them. I wouldn't wish to be in their position. Sanctuary cities I don't like though considering the issue law abiding citizens (both legal and undocumented/illegal) have with those whp are illegal and known/convicted criminals. I don't agree with not protecting this type of illegal.

As for the Paris Climate Change Policy. Look into it and see how many countries are meeting their obligations/expectations?

You, living in Australia, asked me, living in America if I personally knew of anyone affected by the Trump regime.

"I'm guessing plenty of tourists to Cape Cod were from those countries on the travel ban."
- No, general overseas tourism is down, especially from UK/EU. People from those 6 countries don't generally vacation in Province town!
I was getting this info from a friend who manages a restaurant in Hyannis. Harder to staff and numbers of int'l tourists down.
Pre-booked conference numbers are good but international tourism, which he relies on, is down.

"Course don't get cancelled because one professor isn't available"
You got me, that students class was postponed, not cancelled. Well done you!

"California's had a history of fires. To say peo people's hpmes being burnt down is due to trump and his government is ludicrous"
I never suggested peoples homes were burning down due to trump. I just suggested that the knowledge that the government is denying climate change is making the loss of these peoples homes harder to take. That makes their life tougher.

"I don't quite get your point on the GE river pollution. Didn't that occur decades ago and more recently wildlife (humpback whales) have been sighted ?"
-The GE river pollution was on a stretch of the Housatonic in Western Mass, about 200 miles from the sea, still no humpbacks spotted in the Berkshire mountains.
Of course you dont like sanctuary cities but never the less, these peoples lives have been negatively affected by Trump
I never suggested peoples homes were burning down due to trump. I just suggested that the knowledge that the government is denying climate change is making the loss of these peoples homes harder to take. That makes their life tougher.

- On Sanctuary cities, I figured that would be your opinion, never the less, good people are being negatively affected by Trump.

"As for the Paris Climate Change Policy. Look into it and see how many countries are meeting their obligations/expectations?"
Dunno what this has to do with how negatively peoples lives are being affected by Trump.

All this aside, I'll tell you why the Trump presidency is doing harm.
Throughout the history of this country, politicians ran by appealing to their base but when they got elected, they realized that everyone who lived in America was their constituent and they attempted to govern accordingly, yea they might have principles founded in a certain political ideology but for the most part they tried to govern for all the people.
This is no longer the case. Trump is governing for his base/personal wealth. What this does is drive a partizan wedge in American politics. A wedge that leads to uncertainty, unease and unrest. The economy is good, thank god, because if it wasn't, there'd be serious civil unrest.
Trump is a liar, a sexual deviant, a realty tv host, a mocker of the disabled and as far as the majority of Americans are concerned, is doing untold damage to the office of president.

 

[LinekersLegs]

The above is from March 2017 - I have been talking about the Walker "John Doe" investigation since 2014, and we are just now getting the details. This is what I voted against when I voted for Trump. This is KGBesque in its implications, and is consistent with the kind of behind the scenes data that is emerging regarding the ongoing Mueller investigations. Those torpedoes keep tracking back to source, time after time.

For this, the perps will get "disciplinary action and no charges." I'm sure they would offer the same leniency to their GOP targets. /sarc

In an 88-page report, Republican Attorney General Brad Schimel lays bare the actions of staff at the former Government Accountability Board as they dug into what is described as a previously unknown, secret “John Doe III” investigation into several GOP officials and staffers who were [absolved of the suspicion that they] campaign[ed] out of taxpayer-funded offices….

[T]he report criticizes the “breathtaking” sweep of the three John Doe investigations, which included 218 warrants and subpoenas. DOJ found the John Doe investigators obtained and categorized several private emails unrelated to campaigns, including 150 personal emails between Sen. Leah Vukmir and her daughter that included health information, and placed them in a folder labeled “Opposition Research” — a term that refers to political dirt collected on opponents....

Schimel concluded the GAB staff didn’t act in “a detached and professional manner” and that it was reasonable to infer “they were on a mission to bring down the Walker campaign and the Governor himself.” He pointed to a November 2013 email in which [former GAB lawyer Shane] Falk encouraged Schmitz, who was having doubts about the GAB’s legal theory, to “stay strong.”

“Remember, in brief, this was a bastardization of politics and our state is being run by corporations and billionaires,” Falk wrote. “This isn’t democracy to say the least, but due to how they do this dark money, the populace never gets to know. The cynic in me says the sheeple would still follow the propaganda even if they knew, but at least it would all be out there so that the influences on our politicians is clearly known.”

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/12/wisconsin-department-of-justice-finds_8.html

Those 6 AM SWAT team raids against their opponents are guaranteed to win hearts and minds for more governmental power and authority, or maybe turn the state to vote for Trump, instead. The investigation was set up to find process crimes of any campaign activity by Walker supporters, as small as answering a question or taking a phone call, from any taxpayer-funded office. They would comb through records obtained from seized computers (seized at break of dawn via police raid, while informing the "raidee" that they could not tell anyone of this under force of law of the "John Doe" statutes of the state of Wisconsin)

What did those "raidees" say when the authorities rousted them from their beds?

"Don't shoot my dog, please, don't shoot my dog."

This is the institutional Democratic party at work within the system prior to 2016, when their power was threatened. This is how you got Trump.

Err, you voted for Trump because you were against the legal proccess being subverted to go after political enemies???

The man whose secondary campaign slogan was "lock her up", who delighted in making wild accusations about his opponents (Cruz's Dad killed JFK was my personal favourite) and showed zero regard for rule of law or process whilst praising dictators?

Do you honestly believe that if someone suggested doing exacty what the GAB staff did to Trump he wouldn't jump at the chance?

 

[LinekersLegs]

"California's had a history of fires. To say peo people's hpmes being burnt down is due to trump and his government is ludicrous"
I never suggested peoples homes were burning down due to trump. I just suggested that the knowledge that the government is denying climate change is making the loss of these peoples homes harder to take. That makes their life tougher..

There are provisions in the tax bill that would make fire victim lives significantly tougher.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-wildfire-tax-deduction-20171107-story,amp.html
The House Republican tax bill would eliminate the deduction for personal losses from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, but keep the break for victims of the recent severe hurricanes.

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[mezzrow]

Err, you voted for Trump because you were against the legal proccess being subverted to go after political enemies???

The man whose secondary campaign slogan was "lock her up", who delighted in making wild accusations about his opponents (Cruz's Dad killed JFK was my personal favourite) and showed zero regard for rule of law or process whilst praising dictators?

Do you honestly believe that if someone suggested doing exacty what the GAB staff did to Trump he wouldn't jump at the chance?

Perhaps. If Clinton had been elected, there would be no doubt this would be the order of the day, especially when approved by the electorate.

Here the thing, though. Where will Trump find his minions within the bureaucratic state, legs? 90+ percent of those folks are progressive democrats, which is exactly why Obama could get the IRS to do his bidding while Nixon could not. If you've lived or worked within government or education, you know I am right. You can't do this with a tiny cabal and maintain omerta. You can when most folks are true believers, and have jobs and pensions to protect from any dreaded cuts in government services. The whole culture they live in sees this kind of thing as the equivalent of doing God's work. They did this to get rid of Scott Warren (my guy, way back when) and it wound up getting them Donald Trump in the White House. All this and they still lost. Not only are they crooked and ruthless, they're incompetent.

The Department of Justice’s review of these emails did not find any unethical or illegal behavior by “any state official, employee, or other Wisconsin Republican apparently targeted in John Doe III.”

DOJ investigators believe the leak to the Guardian was calculated to attempt to influence a U.S. Supreme Court decision on whether to take up John Doe prosecutors request for review of the state court’s decision shutting down the investigation – and whether they could hold onto the possessions they illegally took. The Guardian hit piece, with hundreds of pages of cherry-picked court documents, was published just days before the court unanimously rejected the case.

Sloppy disregard for the security of the court-sealed John Doe documents – at the GAB and at the state Supreme Court office – left the DOJ unable to identify beyond a reasonable doubt who had access to the records, when the records where accessed or “who stole them,” according to the report.

Here’s the scary footnote to a frightening report on government abuse: The Department of Justice cannot assure any John Doe II or III target that information illegally seized from them “will not be published on the Internet or by The Guardian at some future date.”

“Nor can DOJ assure any person whose information was gathered that they will not suffer from identity theft or face other adverse consequences as a result of the irresponsible way that GAB handled personal information,” the report states.

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/201...hn-doe-was-more-sinister-than-first-reported/

 

[Ruairi77]

There are provisions in the tax bill that would make fire victim lives significantly tougher.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-wildfire-tax-deduction-20171107-story,amp.html
The House Republican tax bill would eliminate the deduction for personal losses from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, but keep the break for victims of the recent severe hurricanes.

wow, you see @toffy , it's stuff like this, it's a constant flow of crap, most of the time it's not right v left, it's rich v poor.