Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[DanEFC92]

Don't talk about Russia. Don't talk about North Korea and potential nuclear war. Don't talk about the inability to pass a single (1) law.

Pick a fight with the NFL and wait for it all to go away. Genius.

All the while Puerto Rico is underwater.

 

[DanEFC92]

With Anthony Weiner sentenced to 21 months in jail, it'll be fun to see what tonights twitter ramblings will be.

Some incoherent nonsense equating Weiner's behaviour with everyone else on the left, or in particular, 'Crooked Hillary Clinton'.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Much harder to get relief and help to islands like Peurto Rico and Virgin Islands so naval/air support more important so why on earth was it sent back to Norfolk?

 

[abelard]

"Regarding Trump’s fire-the-NFL-protesters line last night, it is a classic example of Trump’s, at times, gut-level political savvy. This kind of thing is why he’s president.

He takes a commonly held sentiment — most people don’t like the NFL protests — and states it in an inflammatory way guaranteed to get everyone’s attention and generate outrage among his critics.

When those critics lash back at him, Trump is put in the position of getting attacked for a fairly commonsensical view. Of course, NFL owners firing players on the spot for protesting isn’t necessarily common sense, but this is where “seriously, not literally” comes in.

Since everyone knows that owners aren’t going to do this, Trump’s statement registers for his supporters merely as forceful opposition to the protests, not as a specific plan of action. His advocacy for a Mexico-funded border wall and for the Muslim ban played in a roughly similar way (although The Wall was taken more literally, hence Trump’s exertions to make a colorable case that it is being built).

Finally, when Trump is criticized and doesn’t back down it is taken by his supporters as a sign of strength. If a political consultant came up with this strategy, he’d deserve a huge raise. But it’s just Trump himself operating on instinct."

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/451667/trump-nfl-protest-comments-example-why-hes-president

 

[RAFUH]

Correct. That one player served in the US Army and fought in Afghanistan. He had a different thing to say and expressed it how he saw fit. That's pretty straight up American. It's also pretty straight up American to say something else, by kneeling or staying in the locker room.

Yeah... this was a point I was trying to make earlier and quoted the wrong tweet.

The folks I know vilifying all the players kneeling are the same ones applauding the lone Steeler.
Totally lost on them that both are expression of first amendment rights.

 

[Fedlingen]

The uneducated man has since deleted his twitter account.

 

[RAFUH]

Much harder to get relief and help to islands like Peurto Rico and Virgin Islands so naval/air support more important so why on earth was it sent back to Norfolk?

I know several local units - Marine and Army - deployed to USVI, but haven't heard anything about them or others heading to PR.

 

[LinekersLegs]

"Regarding Trump’s fire-the-NFL-protesters line last night, it is a classic example of Trump’s, at times, gut-level political savvy. This kind of thing is why he’s president.

He takes a commonly held sentiment — most people don’t like the NFL protests — and states it in an inflammatory way guaranteed to get everyone’s attention and generate outrage among his critics.

When those critics lash back at him, Trump is put in the position of getting attacked for a fairly commonsensical view. Of course, NFL owners firing players on the spot for protesting isn’t necessarily common sense, but this is where “seriously, not literally” comes in.

Since everyone knows that owners aren’t going to do this, Trump’s statement registers for his supporters merely as forceful opposition to the protests, not as a specific plan of action. His advocacy for a Mexico-funded border wall and for the Muslim ban played in a roughly similar way (although The Wall was taken more literally, hence Trump’s exertions to make a colorable case that it is being built).

Finally, when Trump is criticized and doesn’t back down it is taken by his supporters as a sign of strength. If a political consultant came up with this strategy, he’d deserve a huge raise. But it’s just Trump himself operating on instinct."

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/451667/trump-nfl-protest-comments-example-why-hes-president

Same instinct that had him see "very fine people" in a white supremacist rally - not sure it political genius as a well worn approach over the years that Trump is using particularly shamelessly.

 

[DanEFC92]

I'd like to know why Trump, who's had the very best of the American dream (born to wealth and privilege, attended top schools, avoided serving in Vietnam on bullshit excuse, walked away from multiple bankruptcies), is allowed to essentially call America a nation of killers in response to Bill O'Reilly's questions about Putin earlier this year, whereas an African-American athlete who's had the polar opposite life experience is required to love the country uncritically? The answer is blindingly obvious.

Via Reddit.

 

[roydo]

Same instinct that had him see "very fine people" in a white supremacist rally - not sure it political genius as a well worn approach over the years that Trump is using particularly shamelessly.

It has literally just occurred to me, that this Kneeling, or Take the Knee, stance, (its not a protest as such, more a symbolic act), is 49 years, yes, FORTY NINE YEARS, after one of the most powerful, symbolic, images, ever. The 2 (?) black Merican sprinters (again, ?) with their Black Glove stance on the podium at the 1968 Mexican Olympics.

I was 3.

Astonishing.

 

[RAFUH]

Several NASCAR owners have told their drivers they should expect to be sacked if they don't stand for the National Anthem.

Hardly suprising from the most redneck sport in the world.

I would guess many are in the same boat as I am...not a way I would choose to protest, but absolutely their right to do so and POTUS suggesting otherwise is abhorrent.

Case in point (tweeted not long after Trump bragged about NASCAR support)

 

[LinekersLegs]

It has literally just occurred to me, that this Kneeling, or Take the Knee, stance, (its not a protest as such, more a symbolic act), is 49 years, yes, FORTY NINE YEARS, after one of the most powerful, symbolic, images, ever. The 2 (?) black Merican sprinters (again, ?) with their Black Glove stance on the podium at the 1968 Mexican Olympics.

I was 3.

Astonishing.

http://time.com/3880999/black-power-salute-tommie-smith-and-john-carlos-at-the-1968-olympics/

Oct. 16, 1968: U.S. runners Tommie Smith, centre, and John Carlos stare downward during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" after receiving their medals at the Olympics in Mexico City.

Fascinating story about the silver medalist Peter Norman
https://www.thestar.com/news/insigh...the-black-power-photo-from-1968-olympics.html

 

[Fedlingen]

It has literally just occurred to me, that this Kneeling, or Take the Knee, stance, (its not a protest as such, more a symbolic act), is 49 years, yes, FORTY NINE YEARS, after one of the most powerful, symbolic, images, ever. The 2 (?) black Merican sprinters (again, ?) with their Black Glove stance on the podium at the 1968 Mexican Olympics.

I was 3.

Astonishing.

It really, truly is quite astonishing. Terrified and intriqued as to where the USA is heading, it's the 1960's and 70's over and over again.

 

[roydo]

And nearly half a century later, after 8 years with a black POTUS, nothing, or not much anyrate, seems to have changed under this POTUS.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Women in wheelchairs appear to terrify the Capitol police, don't think I've seen such a police presence before for people waiting to get into a hearing.