Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Call me oldfashioned but rather than fore off his 15th tweet about sports in the past few hours


This is really pissing me off tbh..more than it probably should. My grew up military so I don't think I could personally protest in this manner - bit too ingrained.

That said... in a free society, there is no "MUST RESPECT" for symbols of government at least within the bounds of law.
Showing lack of respect, criticizing and the ability to generally disagree with the government and overall country itself is the very bedrock of US founding principles.

On top of all that, NFL players prior to 2009 weren't on the field during the National Anthem. The DOD pays for many of these pre-game displays. It is freaking marketing.
 
This is really pissing me off tbh..more than it probably should. My grew up military so I don't think I could personally protest in this manner - bit too ingrained.

That said... in a free society, there is no "MUST RESPECT" for symbols of government at least within the bounds of law.
Showing lack of respect, criticizing and the ability to generally disagree with the government and overall country itself is the very bedrock of US founding principles.

On top of all that, NFL players prior to 2009 weren't on the field during the National Anthem. The DOD pays for many of these pre-game displays. It is freaking marketing.
Aye, coercing people into displays of patriotism under threat of being fired seems the very antithesis of celebration of the American constitution.

Given his personal insults to the military service of John McCain and the Gold star parents of Humanyun Kahn I also find being lectured by this particular president on what should be defined as respect particularly galling.
 
Both Murkowski and Collins are taking calls from other states about the healthcare bill. Collins was voicemail, but only took me about 10 mins on hold to talk to a staffer at Lisa's office
202-224 -
Murkowski 6665
Collins 2523

Am nervous with todays revised bill with lots of bribes that there could be quite a lot of pressure on them to say yes.
 
Colin Kaepernick has won: he wanted a conversation and Trump started it
The quarterback wanted kneeling in protest for the anthem to start a national talk about race and justice. Thanks to the president’s blast of rage, we have one



Colin Kaepernick, center, protests before a game against the Arizona Cardinals last October. Photograph: USA Today Sports

Les Carpenter
Published:22:52 BST Sun 24 September 2017

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All Colin Kaepernick ever asked was for his country to have a conversation about race.

This, he warned, would not be easy. Such talks are awkward and often end in a flurry of spittle, pointed fingers and bruised feelings. But from the moment the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback first spoke about his decision to kneel or sit during the national anthem, he said was willing to give up his career to make the nation talk.

In one speech on Friday night, Donald Trump gave Kaepernick exactly what he wanted. With a fiery blast at protesting NFL players that seemingly came from nowhere, the president bonded black and white football players with wealthy white owners in a way nobody could have imagined. By saying any player who didn’t stand for the anthem was a “son of a bitch” and should be fired by his team’s owner, Trump crossed a line from which no one could look away.


Come Sunday afternoon, players who wanted nothing of a racial dialogue stood before giant flags, linking arms in protest. Owners who once wished their kneeling players would just stop offending fans fired off statements in their support. Networks who have avoided showing the raised fists of dissent had no choice but show the rows of players standing strong against Trump’s rage.

Whether anyone wanted it or not, Trump has forced the US to have the conversation Kaepernick has been requesting.
You could see it in the words of New York Giants owner John Mara, who once said many of his team’s fans would “never (come) to another Giants game” if one of his players refused to stand for the anthem. This weekend he and co-owner Steve Tisch saidTrump’s remarks were “inappropriate, offensive and divisive”.

“We are proud of our players,” they said, “the vast majority of whom use their NFL platform to make a positive difference in our society.”

You could hear it in the voice of London Fletcher, a player so tough he never missed a game in his 16-year career but also a strong Christian who dodged controversial topics during his playing days. On Sunday, he told CBS Sports he was angered by Trump’s words “because there is a racial undertone to his comments and the way I heard it is ‘you black SOB get off the field’.”

You could even feel it in the tweets of people like former ESPN reporter turned conservative commentator Britt McHenry, who announced she was not watching the NFL because of the anthem protests or Baltimore Ravens fan Bobby Blivins who put his season tickets up for sale on Twitter after many of the team’s players kneeled at Wembley Stadium.

You could feel it, of course, in Trump’s own words. On Sunday afternoon, as the president headed back to Washington from his New Jersey golf club, a reporter asked: “Are you inflaming racial tensions, sir?”

“This has nothing to do with race,” Trump said, talking, of course, about race. “I never said anything about race. This has nothing to do with race or anything else. This has to do with respect for our country and respect for our flag.”

All of them were having some form of the talk Kaepernick so desperately wants to have. Their outrage was real and their words loaded with phrases that often throw America on to the third rail of public debate but their anger – regardless of the meaning behind it – represented the beginnings of an essential dialogue that often we are too polite to initiate.

“I think this is something that can unify this country,” Kaepernick said in the summer of 2016, at his first press conference about his protest. “If we can have the real conversations that are uncomfortable for a lot of people – if we can have this conversation there’s a better understanding where both sides are coming from. (And) if we can reach common ground and can understand what everyone’s going through, we can really affect change.”

Earlier this year, the sociologist and civil rights activist Harry Edwards, who has worked with the 49ers, told the NFL Network Kaepernick had achieved something that Barack Obama and all the nation’s activists and prominent black voices had not. He had ignited a discussion that had been missing for generations.

When Kaepernick’s proclamation that he might be sacrificing his career turned out to be prophetic and no team signed him after his release from the 49ers the conversation simmered over the players who continued his protest. Nothing has given Kaepernick’s protest fuel like Trump’s words. Instead of dissecting another football Sunday, much of America is asking why the Pittsburgh Steelers and Seattle Seahawks didn’t take the field for the anthem.

The discourse might not be civil. It probably isn’t reasoned or rational. But it’s discourse. And, really, that’s the reason Kaepernick took his knee. Just when his absence got lost in reports of who kneeled for the anthem or who did not, Donald Trump stood behind a lectern in Alabama and gave the NFL a big old megaphone.

Everyone who sat in front of football on Sunday was forced to have Colin Kaepernick’s great national conversation. That might be the biggest victory of the career he has given up.
 
Both Murkowski and Collins are taking calls from other states about the healthcare bill. Collins was voicemail, but only took me about 10 mins on hold to talk to a staffer at Lisa's office
202-224 -
Murkowski 6665
Collins 2523

Am nervous with todays revised bill with lots of bribes that there could be quite a lot of pressure on them to say yes.
Well done, LL.
I'll make the calls today
 


This is sad, but perhaps instructive

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41371793
How Cuba and Puerto Rico responded to their hurricanes

"...As the days pass, however, it is the differing response to the two disasters that stands out.

In Cuba, brigades of emergency services, hordes of police and firemen, as well as thousands of state employees, were in the streets of Havana from the moment it was safe to be out.

Despite the lack of adequate materials, teams with chainsaws arrived to remove the worst of the felled trees and clear much of the debris.

The Cuban capital was largely without power or water for five insufferable days. After that first week, though, most of the island regained power relatively quickly.

Puerto Ricans are currently looking at a lot longer before the electricity comes back. Definitely weeks, possibly months.

So pleased are the Cuban government with its reaction that they and some of the big tour operators have started to tweet pictures of the main tourist beaches in resorts like Varadero, showing them freshly cleaned and open for business again.

That glosses over just how bad things remain for many thousands of people, especially further down the coast.

It also ignores the widespread criticism of the state's response that was voiced on the street by many Cubans.

"If the Commander in Chief, Fidel Castro, was still alive, I can tell you this would have been very different", said Alejandro Alvarez in hushed tones, a resident of Centro Habana, one of the capital's worst affected neighbourhoods.

Specifically, he was unimpressed by Raul Castro's absence in the first days of the crisis. Beyond a letter to the Cuban people in the state-run newspaper, Granma, urging them to show "discipline" and follow the instructions of the authorities, he was scarcely seen. Many ordinary Cubans felt he should have been in the streets, leading by example.

Plenty of others complained of having to wait too long before state officials attended to problems on their block or in their building.

Nevertheless, in some of the worst-hit areas of the capital the operation was impressive and, government propaganda aside, the truth is that much of Cuba is getting back to normal after the devastating storm.

Not so Puerto Rico, nor is it likely to be any time soon. Thousands of trees continue to block main highways and thoroughfares, whole neighbourhoods remain flooded and many homes are without roofs and exposed to the elements.

The main airport is chaos with anxious passengers unable to find out if they will be able to travel, let alone when.

For all the criticism of Cuba's response voiced by Alejandro and his neighbours as they tried in vain to dry out their meagre possessions in Centro Habana, right now they would be staggered at the apparent absence of leadership in Puerto Rico.

Traffic on flooded highways is being redirected by residents rather than the police, who are stretched to the limits elsewhere in the capital. Whole communities still haven't properly been heard from days after the storm passed.

Asked by the BBC how the government were prepared for the fact the worst was potentially still to come in Puerto Rico, the island's governor, Ricardo Rossello, was defensive.

"We're ready for the rebuild", Mr Rossello said "but I disagree with the premise because I think this is the worst moment as it has involved risk to the lives of our citizens."

"Everything else can be repaired. Of course, it's uncomfortable to be without electricity or basic necessities. But the most important thing was to avoid the loss of life."

Puerto Rico is an island mired in debt. Its crippling financial crisis is not recent, it has been happening for the past decade. Investment in infrastructure has not been seen in years, one long-term resident told me.

If so, the economic chickens have come home to roost in the most terrible of ways: the dam on the Guajataca River has failed, forcing the emergency evacuation of thousands from the towns below, Isabela and Quebradillas. It is a critical and very dangerous situation.

However, Cuba too is an island that suffers from a lack of infrastructural investment, probably worse than in Puerto Rico. Plus it must contend with the US economic embargo - the Cuban government's perennial excuse for its economic mismanagement but one that is undeniably relevant at a time like this.

On one level, Havana was just lucky that Irma did not arrive as a category five. If it had, one shudders to think of what the devastation and loss of life in the city would have been.

In both islands though, there has been a lot of what Raul Castro called "neighbourly solidarity" - ordinary people helping each other rather than waiting for the authorities.

Perhaps one should not judge the official responses too harshly this early.

After all, both Irma and Maria were uniquely powerful storms, the strongest to hit Cuba and Puerto Rico respectively in almost a century.
 
Several NASCAR owners have told their drivers they should expect to be sacked if they don't stand for the National Anthem.

Hardly suprising from the most redneck sport in the world.

Which is hilarious in itself. I doubt the mainly southern white male drivers the teams have would even contemplate doing this anyway.

I suspect they only spoke out because Trump was in Alabama.
 
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