Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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No, come on Groucho, you asked the question, it's not patronising......you raised an issue that I had already answered.....
Pete just because war was declared doesn't mean you just let Nazi's escalate to whatever level they want.

If the Nazi's had been stopped in the '30's WW2 may have been avoided.

I don't see why your reasoning of 'war was declared so that's that' is a reason to let Nazi's feel empowered, which is what Trump is doing.

And again, stop being so patronising when you defend the right wing view.

We clearly will never agree.
 
I have not called everyone irrational, there are certainly irrational view being expressed. I came into this thread to debate, that's why we have this particular section of the forum. Just because I hold a differing view does not make me a wum. I continued to argue a point as different posters raised other points and issue, we've now got WW2 being mentioned ffs, and there is nothing wrong with that...... either debate or don't, but at least we can keep it civil, unlike the events at C'ville.....

Please point out those comments you feel were irrational. I am intrigued.

I have nothing against your differing view by the way. Its the tone of your posts and the slight arrogance to suggest that your argument hold true while the person debating you is either a) irrational b) wrong c) not accurate due to lack of source.

Oh and don''t be that guy that feels the need to explain what a forum is ffs. I think we all know and understand the concept.

Finally don't blow it out of proportion about people not being civil. I gave an opinion on how i feel your posts come across to me and you felt i was attacking you. No i wasn't i felt your tone strikes the same chord as a lot of the people on here simply wanting to wind up. That's my opinion. Isn't that what forums are for like you explained to me?

I apologise if you took it to heart and felt i was "getting personal"
 
From candidacy to present day.

Don't get me wrong. There are effigies of Trump too, but to suggest the vitriol is equivalent is disingenuous

I had many in the USA people working or me, really of all political persuasion, who I spoke to on a regular basis, but I do not recall anything like the animosity against Trump. I know I am outside of the USA but it just feels different tbh.....
 
Lincoln abolished slavery and the South seceded because of it.

not exactly...

Were they at the beginning of his presidency or towards the end ?.......

that's really sleazy pete, even for you. as if any of that could ever be justified.

and the right started on Obama long before he was even elected. "Birtherism," Trump's first claim to fame, went national from the very start of the 2008 campaign, and was a feature of his run for Illinois senate in 2004
 
I had many in the USA people working or me, really of all political persuasion, who I spoke to on a regular basis, but I do not recall anything like the animosity against Trump. I know I am outside of the USA but it just feels different tbh.....

I have a couple of very good friends from the east coast you should speak to them, one of them from close to Boston has ranged from almost tearful to what I'd describe as fury over trump more than once and this specifically and that's not Hyperbole.
 
Pete just because war was declared doesn't mean you just let Nazi's escalate to whatever level they want.

If the Nazi's had been stopped in the '30's WW2 may have been avoided.

I don't see why your reasoning of 'war was declared so that's that' is a reason to let Nazi's feel empowered, which is what Trump is doing.

And again, stop being so patronising when you defend the right wing view.

We clearly will never agree.

The reason I mentioned the declaration was because it's official, its legal, its war. Whoever had won would have written the history of the war and written the future. If we hadn't have won, trust me, everyone on here would be spouting Nazi propaganda. My whole argument has been that intolerance is on the rise and that this must be avoided. You accuse me of defending a right wing view yet I have said nothing to support them, I support a centrist view and socialist concern, so perhaps an apology might be in order. We may not agree but do not paint me a colour and assume that's a prepositioned viewpoint.....
 
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