Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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ilikecheese said:
I see. You are talking about Obama's remarks. Personally I think that was a campaign ploy especially after reading his comments after the vote.

Still though it's not anti UK to hope they remained. Ally or not.
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If he had said, I hope you remain, but if you leave we will still treat you as we should, fair enough, but he didn't, and indeed throughout his term always seemed to be against the UK, again fair enough, but let's not pretend he was for us.....
 
peteblue said:
I'm not bothered which way they wanted the UK to vote. What upset me was their 'you are at the back of the queue' views, which either signified that they were trying to bully us, or were genuinely against us. Either way. They were no friends of the UK. Trump, like him or not, was unequivocal about his support to the UK........
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There's the victim mentality coming through again. If either were out to bully us or were against us they'd say we weren't in the queue at all. Or that they'd up tariffs etc etc.

As posted above, the post-Brexit statements are reasonable, surely, even for leave voters.
 
DanEFC92 said:
There's the victim mentality coming through again. If either were out to bully us or were against us they'd say we weren't in the queue at all. Or that they'd up tariffs etc etc.

As posted above, the post-Brexit statements are reasonable, surely, even for leave voters.
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There's no victim mentality, however you try to paint it. The UK has been a steadfast friend and ally to the USA, as indeed the USA has been to the UK. Those comments from Obama may well have been received well by some remainers as it backed up their case, but were treated like a stab in the back from everybody I knew whichever way they wanted to vote. Either friends are friends or they are not.......
 
peteblue said:
If he had said, I hope you remain, but if you leave we will still treat you as we should, fair enough, but he didn't, and indeed throughout his term always seemed to be against the UK, again fair enough, but let's not pretend he was for us.....
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He was opposed to Brexit as I think most Americans were. Being opposed to Brexit is not anti UK.

Regarding his comments it was an obvious political move to try to sway the vote. Much like that NHS bus. Nothing more.
 
peteblue said:
There's no victim mentality, however you try to paint it. The UK has been a steadfast friend and ally to the USA, as indeed the USA has been to the UK. Those comments from Obama may well have been received well by some remainers as it backed up their case, but were treated like a stab in the back from everybody I knew whichever way they wanted to vote. Either friends are friends or they are not.......
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You crying about perceived bullying or backstabbing, when there patently hasn't been any such thing screams victim mentality but ok.

And that comment about friends of yours being outraged over it, even the remainers, is bollocks. Be honest.

Once again though, read the post-brexit statements FFS.
 
DanEFC92 said:
You crying about perceived bullying or backstabbing, when there patently hasn't been any such thing screams victim mentality but ok.

And that comment about friends of yours being outraged over it, even the remainers, is bollocks. Be honest.

Once again though, read the post-brexit statements FFS.
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It was not bollocks, indeed I believe it added many more votes to Brexit as a result........
 
ilikecheese said:
He was opposed to Brexit as I think most Americans were. Being opposed to Brexit is not anti UK.

Regarding his comments it was an obvious political move to try to sway the vote. Much like that NHS bus. Nothing more.
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So he tried to interfere with our vote, to his and your benefit. Perhaps the U.K. should back Russia and China in order to sway your votes, but that would not be the action of a friend......now do you get it......
 
Oh, and NK have announced that they will have a complete plan for attacking Guam by mid August, apparently......now let's see how many EU friends you have........
 
peteblue said:
I'm sure that in the same way that Obama supporting Remain made people vote leave, that Trump supporting Leave made some vote remain. But at least all British voters, leave or remain, knew that he would support us. Unlike either Obama or Clinton......

And at that point I shall bid you goodnight.......
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He tried to interfere with our vote, to his benefit, etc etc.

Quite the hypocrite, really.

Night.
 
peteblue said:
Oh, and NK have announced that they will have a complete plan for attacking Guam by mid August, apparently......now let's see how many EU friends you have........
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WTF is wrong with you? Were you not getting anywhere in the EU in or not thread, that you had to come into one about Trump, make wild statements you cannot or could not back up, just to bait our American friends and fellow blues?

Now you seem to be condoning North Korea idea of destroying Guam and hoping the NATO and UN allies ignore it (not EU friends by the way) because they all suddenly hate the US?

The EU or European allies in the UN and NATO need the US so if North Korea does do something stupid they will assist if needed. 100% even Britain will help out.

Keep your own hate to yourself and stop trying to pretend the rest of our fellow Europeans agree with you.

And again the EU and UN and NATO are all separate organisations you know that right?
 
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