Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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President Trump is considering a broad shakeup of his White House that could include the replacement of White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and the departure of chief strategist Steve Bannon, aides and advisers tell us. A top aide to Trump said he's contemplating major changes, but that the situation is very fluid and the timing uncertain: "Things are happening, but it's very unclear the president's willing to pull that trigger."
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The West Wing "Game of Thrones" has been raging ever since Trump took office. But the war between the nationalists and the moderates, led by Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, burst into the open this week after Bannon was taken off the National Security Council, setting off a torrent of leaks against him.
Bannon called reports that he was ready to quit "100 percent nonsense."
Axios' Jonathan Swan reports that Bannon told associates: "I love a gunfight."

The top aide — along with many other Trump officials, advisers and friends — told us that it seems to be more a question of "when" not "whether" change will come: "The tension, the exhaustion, the raw nerves have gotten much harder to disguise."
 
peteblue said:
Trump has many failings both as a person and a president, but he got it right in this case.......
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Isn't it a little early to be making that assessment Pete and depend heavily on what you define as the missile strike's objective?

It is less than 24 hours after the bombing so we have no idea of how things are going to play out. Will it stop Syria using more chemical weapons - the attack after all did not seem to either destroy any stockpiles or significantly deplete their airforce? Will they just revert back to conventional weapons and bombing of hospitals instead and would that be acceptable? Will there be any retaliation against US and coalition aircraft/troops that are targeting ISIS?

I hope it all works out but things in the Middle East rarely seem to go to plan...and that is even with well thought out plans which this clearly hasn't been as less than a week ago all statements from the administration were suggesting no attacks on Assad.
 
Too bad he didn't save us all the trouble that the world might be in now by saying right from when he took office that America will use the full force of its military if international accepted values in combat are not abided by.

By saying he didn't want to get involved has emboldened other countries to think they can get away with whatever they want. I'm not saying he was wrong to green light these retaliatory strikes, but now he has seriously rubbed Russia up the wrong way when a phone call to start with while he still had some good will, to ask them to keep Syria in check else the US would get involved if Assad does anything silly like use chemical weapons, might have kept the whole situation at bay.

When you get a person who is so clearly able to back track on what he says, other people don't know where they stand and that just makes everyone nervous. We happen to have 3 loose cannons in charge of very large military powers and that is a sickening thought.
 
LinekersLegs said:
https://www.axios.com/exclusive-tru...ff-house-leader-on-short-list-2349015716.html

President Trump is considering a broad shakeup of his White House that could include the replacement of White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and the departure of chief strategist Steve Bannon, aides and advisers tell us. A top aide to Trump said he's contemplating major changes, but that the situation is very fluid and the timing uncertain: "Things are happening, but it's very unclear the president's willing to pull that trigger."
.l.
The West Wing "Game of Thrones" has been raging ever since Trump took office. But the war between the nationalists and the moderates, led by Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, burst into the open this week after Bannon was taken off the National Security Council, setting off a torrent of leaks against him.
Bannon called reports that he was ready to quit "100 percent nonsense."
Axios' Jonathan Swan reports that Bannon told associates: "I love a gunfight."

The top aide — along with many other Trump officials, advisers and friends — told us that it seems to be more a question of "when" not "whether" change will come: "The tension, the exhaustion, the raw nerves have gotten much harder to disguise."
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As long as Trump stays in office these shake-ups will likely be routine. He doesn't have an inner circle, or any sort of advisor/confidants, or even truly loyal friends. Mostly he just has sycophant boot-lickers like that execrable Sean Spicer. What Trump does possess is a fragile ego, large amounts of paranoia, and a woeful lack of self-awareness. There's a leader in North Korea who is also characterized by these things. The only difference is that Trump can't execute former inner circle members by anti-aircraft guns.
 
LinekersLegs said:
Isn't it a little early to be making that assessment Pete and depend heavily on what you define as the missile strike's objective?

It is less than 24 hours after the bombing so we have no idea of how things are going to play out. Will it stop Syria using more chemical weapons - the attack after all did not seem to either destroy any stockpiles or significantly deplete their airforce? Will they just revert back to conventional weapons and bombing of hospitals instead and would that be acceptable? Will there be any retaliation against US and coalition aircraft/troops that are targeting ISIS?

I hope it all works out but things in the Middle East rarely seem to go to plan...and that is even with well thought out plans which this clearly hasn't been as less than a week ago all statements from the administration were suggesting no attacks on Assad.
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The attack was a very clear message and that message needed to be delivered because Russia believed it and Assad could do as they please. An attack that caused so few casualties, yet destroyed a few airbase buildings, has brought forward a UN SC meeting and got the whole Syria issue back on the table. I imagine that the US military were also very pleased, both from a political point of view and also in terms of real testing of their technology against the S-400 (growler) missile system.....
 
LinekersLegs said:
Whether it justifies going to war is an entirely different question but surely hard to deny the Syrian & Russian government have commited atrocities in both Aleppo and elsewhere using both conventional and chemical weapons in the past?
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Possibly, but I always treat these types of things with major caution, especially when the media are stirring it all up in the way they are. If you look back to the first gulf war when the media were all over George Bush Snr's claims that Iraqi soldiers had invaded a Kuwaiti hospital and taken babies out of their incubators, and left them to die. They had a young lady called Nayirah give an emotional testimony to that effect, it was all over the TV and sparked huge public outrage towards Iraq. The testimony turned out to be false and the young lady that gave the testimony was actually the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US. Not to mention that one of the longest, bloodiest wars that the US has been involved in (Vietnam) was also started based on a lie (The Gulf of Tonkin incident - never happened). They don't even need to create an atrocity, just making up some lies about 'weapons of mass destruction' is enough to justify bombing the crap out of a country, and killing vast numbers of innocent people.

The US have been wanting to get into Syria for quite some time. This is documented in the 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' report dated September 2000. General Wesley Clark (retired former Nato Chief) has also spoken openly about how there has been an American military agenda to remove regimes and take over countries like Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan etc going back as early as 1991. Nothing to do with a 'war on terror', as it's been sold to us since 9/11. It was planned long before then

All of this leads me to believe that the anti-Syria propaganda is either false or greatly exaggerated (and Trump is just another puppet in there to continue 'business as usual' in respect of their strategy towards the middle east)
 
Possibly the most shameful event in the history of British politics. The day when Labour and the Libdems combined to defeat the motion to take military action against Assad. Thousands of innocent people killed and maimed as a result leading to the gas/chemical attack last week on hundreds of civilians.
 
bluecol said:
Possibly the most shameful event in the history of British politics. The day when Labour and the Libdems combined to defeat the motion to take military action against Assad. Thousands of innocent people killed and maimed as a result leading to the gas/chemical attack last week on hundreds of civilians.
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Ridiculous hyperbole. Guess years of colonial rule, slave trading, illegal wars, suez, etc etc. are not as bad as weighing into a war we have no right to be part of and no way of controlling.
 
JimmyJeffers said:
Ridiculous hyperbole. Guess years of colonial rule, slave trading, illegal wars, suez, etc etc. are not as bad as weighing into a war we have no right to be part of and no way of controlling.
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Yet you can do lots of hand wringing without coming up with any kind of solution......so, how would you resolve the Syria war......
 
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