I stand corrected. Here's Biden saying blatantly that Trump called neo-Nazis and white nationalists fine people. It's about 45 secs in. Biden is vile.
I stand corrected. Here's Biden saying blatantly that Trump called neo-Nazis and white nationalists fine people. It's about 45 secs in. Biden is vile.
So when he says “very fine people” he is referring to a specific group of protesters, and not only does he keep emphasizing this, but he gets more specific about them.You have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group—excuse me, excuse me—I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
And later in the press conference:But not all of those people were Neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee. So this week it’s Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson’s coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you all—you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? But they were there to protest—excuse me. You take a look, the night before, they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
He keeps going back to this idea that there was a separate group of protesters that weekend in Charlottesville, ordinary people who merely opposed the removal of Lee’s statue, and he keeps giving that group a specific time and place: in Charlottesville “the night before,” that is, the night of Friday, August 11.There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people—neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know—I don’t know if you know, they had a permit.
All right, so who are these people who were just there to protest the removal of the statues? Who was the group protesting “the night before”?And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

Is that you Tucker?Maybe you can come up with a good reason why Harris did not pick the Jewish Governor of PN as her VP. I can't, other than he's Jewish. Harris is almost certainly going to win MN with or without Walz. PN on the other hand is the State that will probably win the Presidency for either candidate. With the PN Governor as her running mate Harris probably gains an extra % point or so in the state. An extra % point in MN wins her nothing.
Concerning Trump, that would be the one and only time I would feel sorry for the rapist.Someone earlier in this thread implied support for Donald Trump to be raped in prison. Now we have JD Vance's wife targeted for the same thing. Democrats do somehow love the thought of their political opponents to be raped. Weird.
I'm not the one advocating rape, that's you.Concerning Trump, that would be the one and only time I would feel sorry for the rapist.
You do know Trump was found civilly liable for rape right?
You really need new material
The absolute state of you
And I still can't believe that he had the nerve to suggest, even if it was subtle, that Harris's decision to overlooking Shapiro for VP was based on antisemitic reasons.Personally I’m comfortable with saying that anyone who was still marching whilst being surrounded by others bearing swastikas and chanting “Jews will not replace us” are not “very fine people”.
Here’s the actual “very fine people” comment:![]()
The “Charlottesville Hoax” Hoax
Trump’s supporters are trying to gaslight you. Again.www.thebulwark.com
So when he says “very fine people” he is referring to a specific group of protesters, and not only does he keep emphasizing this, but he gets more specific about them.
And later in the press conference:
He keeps going back to this idea that there was a separate group of protesters that weekend in Charlottesville, ordinary people who merely opposed the removal of Lee’s statue, and he keeps giving that group a specific time and place: in Charlottesville “the night before,” that is, the night of Friday, August 11.
Cortes claims that “Trump’s ‘fine people on both sides’ observation clearly related to those on both sides of the Confederate monument debate.” In other words, it was just a vague, general observation that good people can disagree on the issue. But as we’ve just seen, that’s not what Trump was saying. He was referring to a specific group of protesters present in Charlottesville on the night of August 11. And this was the context in which Trump denied that he was talking about white nationalists.
All right, so who are these people who were just there to protest the removal of the statues? Who was the group protesting “the night before”?
That’s right. The people marching in Charlottesville the night before were the guys with torches chanting “blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us.”
So you can see where the mainstream view of this statement comes from. Cortes describes Trump’s words as “unambiguous” but his actual words are the very definition of ambiguity: He is denouncing the Nazis out of one side of his mouth, then calling them “very fine people” out of the other. He is saying, in effect, that he condemns the white nationalists but also that the people marching with torches and shouting at the Jews were very fine people. Do you find that a convincing “condemnation”? Would you find it convincing if any other politician said it?
The same reasons that kopites are weird, I guess...Why are they so weird?
Why are they so weird?
I'm not the one advocating rape, that's you.
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