Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Holly Valance?!

Australias Sweetheart Holly Valance?!?!!

Aussies eh, no surprises there

 

[Zatara]

@LinekersLegs

With the Clinton pay off (Paula Jones) and being caught with the intern Monica Lewinsky all the way through to the other guy who hid his payments differently....nothing happened to them.

Yet in this case clearly there are different rules.


Biden and his gang were throwing accusations at Trump about, Russia, China, Ukraine and whoever else fixing elections. Even up to the result where Biden was named President.

It turns out that in fact it was Biden and his son receiving payments from foreign powers.

The 50+ FBI agents who claimed a certain laptop didnt exist which the republicans all along correctly did.

The now President stating he didnt speak to anyone even his son -- again false.

Why is more legal attention not on a sitting President who has taken money from foreign powers through his son and lied about all the details?

If it wasnt for those lies and if the truth had come out prior to the election, there is no way Biden would have won.

 

[Zatara]

No.

Falsifying assets and income is done to induce the bank to offer a lower interest rate, or to get the loan at all. If the bank received accurate information, odds are it would have made a different decision.

If it offered a lower interest rate, it was cheated out of the correct pricing, and the amount of lost interest income. If it offered a loan at all, it was cheated on risk management. Whether the terms of the loan were honored is immaterial. It's fraud by statute, and for a reason.

You're saying the bank is the victim?

 

[Rita_Poon]

grabbing
women
by
the
genitals.

russia.

tit.

 

[Martin Alvito]

@LinekersLegs

With the Clinton pay off (Paula Jones) and being caught with the intern Monica Lewinsky all the way through to the other guy who hid his payments differently....nothing happened to them.

Yet in this case clearly there are different rules.


Biden and his gang were throwing accusations at Trump about, Russia, China, Ukraine and whoever else fixing elections. Even up to the result where Biden was named President.

It turns out that in fact it was Biden and his son receiving payments from foreign powers.

The 50+ FBI agents who claimed a certain laptop didnt exist which the republicans all along correctly did.

The now President stating he didnt speak to anyone even his son -- again false.

Why is more legal attention not on a sitting President who has taken money from foreign powers through his son and lied about all the details?

If it wasnt for those lies and if the truth had come out prior to the election, there is no way Biden would have won.

Zat, Biden's son receiving payments from Burisma is completely legal political corruption. Republicans also do this.

The reason it's legal is because there's no provable quid pro quo. Once that's established, it's a crime. If all a company like Burisma gets out of the deal is access, it isn't. It should be, but try getting Congress to outlaw it.

Proving that a kid's job is a sinecure to the satisfaction of a court of law isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Some of the members have legitimately talented kids, with high-powered jobs. Those members don't want the investigations, or to tell their kids they can't take a high-paying job with, say, a top bank.

You're saying the bank is the victim?

In exactly the same way the government (and by extension the rest of us) are the victims when someone lies to the IRS. If you accept that the one is a crime, it logically follows that the other also is. That is why the fraud statutes are written the way they are.

 

[Zatara]

Zat, Biden's son receiving payments from Burisma is completely legal political corruption. Republicans also do this.

The reason it's legal is because there's no provable quid pro quo. Once that's established, it's a crime. If all a company like Burisma gets out of the deal is access, it isn't. It should be, but try getting Congress to outlaw it.

Proving that a kid's job is a sinecure to the satisfaction of a court of law isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Some of the members have legitimately talented kids, with high-powered jobs. Those members don't want the investigations, or to tell their kids they can't take a high-paying job with, say, a top bank.


In exactly the same way the government (and by extension the rest of us) are the victims when someone lies to the IRS. If you accept that the one is a crime, it logically follows that the other also is. That is why the fraud statutes are written the way they are.

Biden's son -- the issue here of course as Ive made my point on is perception.

Numerous accusations were thrown at Trump. He denied them.

Trump then made accusations about Biden's family -- which are now seen to be true. Biden lied about this. Mulitple times.

If the US voters had been told the truth prior to the election. Hes not being voted in.


Again, are you saying the bank was the victim, because it sounds that way?

 

[Rita_Poon]

is perception affected by feelings?

over to you professor...

 

[LinekersLegs]

The examples you found are not similar to the Trump case. In the first they've made a premeditated plan to falsify records even prior to purchase, those being on even the purchase price. In the second, they falsified their entire company records from day one.

On the other points, where are the bank appraisals? Who is the victim?

With the online post from the guy saying he'd been a banker for 20 years, he's correct.

Two party's entered into an agreement. No terms of the agreement were broken with all payments made on time -- he's admitted to being a democrat and given his opinion along with that fact. There is no victim.

As for the porn star, again its the same situation. There's no evidence to prove he slept with her (although she was allowed to go veer massively off topic to attempt to embarass him) and the person who was found to have actually paid her off has a grudge against Trump.

The whole thing is fishy at best and no one else but this democrat & AG-- the democrats clearly pushed the AG and the judge to take Trump down by all means -- chose to take anything further.

If both cases look like ducks, smell like ducks and walk and talk like ducks...they're probably ducks.

The fact of the matter is that it was only the democrat party that weaponised the legal system -- not a single other person or group wanted to proceed -- so they forced the issue themselves.

Zat believe what you will, I've presented my opinion and data and and am done.

If you want to believe some random guy who replies to the LA Times over the NY judge that is your choice - I find it a really stupid one but it is still your choice.

Have a good evening

 

[Zatara]

Zat believe what you will, I've presented my opinion and data and and am done.

If you want to believe some random guy who replies to the LA Times over the NY judge that is your choice - I find it a really stupid one but it is still your choice.

Have a good evening

An opinion that I never asked for you to 'present'.

Which clearly now you realise is wrong.

 

[LinekersLegs]

An opinion that I never asked for you to 'present'.

Which clearly now you realise is wrong.

No, I am just have better things to do than try to argue with someone who has already made up their mind.

 

[Zatara]

No, I am just have better things to do than try to argue with someone who has already made up their mind.

Oh, your motive is to "argue".

As for your 'high horse' comment. I never asked for your opinion. I'm being generous with my own time replying.

You waded in asking me random questions and thought you were intelligent enough to second guess the answers.

You support a child sniffing, liar who showered with his teenage daughter after being in bed with foreign powers.

Never forget that.

 

[Goat]

No, I am just have better things to do than try to argue with someone who has already made up their mind.

 

[Zatara]

Thats literally what @LinekersLegs legs has done.

It's not about 'winning' or 'losing' to me...nor points scoring.

The flame attracts the flies. Hi @Goat

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

Thats literally what @LinekersLegs legs has done.

It's not about 'winning' or 'losing' to me...nor points scoring.

The flame attracts the flies. Hi @Goat

It’s not flames that attract flies.

How can you be so obtuse?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Oh, your motive is to "argue".

As for your 'high horse' comment. I never asked for your opinion. I'm being generous with my own time replying.

You waded in asking me random questions and thought you were intelligent enough to second guess the answers.

You support a child sniffing, liar who showered with his teenage daughter after being in bed with foreign powers.

Never forget that.

Zat, I generally enjoy a bit of back and forth with posters but there comes a point of where both of us have stated our cases and failed to convince the other of our point of view - that is what I meant by "argue with someone who has made up their mind".

As for the rest, well I think I'll just stick with "have a good evening", goodbye.